Yale Law School Yale Law School Legal Scholarship Repository Faculty Scholarship Series Yale Law School Faculty Scholarship 1-1-1998 Confronting Death: Who Chooses? Who Controls? A Dialogue between Dax Cowart and Robert Burt Robert A. Burt Yale Law School Follow this and additional works at: http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers Part of the Medical Jurisprudence Commons Recommended Citation Burt, Robert A., "Confronting Death: Who Chooses? Who Controls? A Dialogue between Dax Cowart and Robert Burt" (1998). Faculty Scholarship Series. Paper 706. http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/fss_papers/706 This Article is brought to you for free and open access by the Yale Law School Faculty Scholarship at Yale Law School Legal Scholarship Repository. It has been accepted for inclusion in Faculty Scholarship Series by an authorized administrator of Yale Law School Legal Scholarship Repository. For more information, please contact [email protected]. Confronting Death Who Chooses, Who Controls? A Dialogue between Dax Cowart and Robert Burt n 21 November 1996, Dax Cowart and Robert Burt jointly delivered the Heather Koller Memorial Lecture at Pacific Lutheran University. This was the first time that they spoke together in a public forum. Dax Cowart now lives and practices law in Corpus Christi, Texas. In the summer of 1973, he was critically injured in a propane gas explosion that took his father'slife and very deeply burned more than two-thirds of his own body. He was left blind and without the use of his hands. For more than a year Dax underwent extraordinarily painful treatments in the acute burn ward of two hospitals. Throughout his ordeal he demanded to die by refusing consent to his disinfectant treatments. Despite repeated declarations of competence by his psychiatrist, all his pleas were rejected. In 1974, while still hospitalized, he helped make the famous "Please Let Me Die" video, and in 1984 a second video, "Dax's Case." In 1986 Dax Cowart received a law degree from TexasTech University. Burt and Cowart have correspondedover the course of several years on the subject of Dax's case and related issues. They met for the first time during their trip to Tacoma, Washington for the Koller Memorial Lecture.The following is an edited transcriptof their public remarks. "ConfrontingDeath:Who Chooses,Who Controls?A DialoguebetweenDax Cowartand RobertBurt,"Hastings CenterReport28, no. 1 (1998): 14-24. 14 HASTINGS CENTER REPORT Robert Burt: Let me start at a place where I think we agree. Before 1974, the dominant attitude of physicians toward patients was by and large intensely disrespectfulof patients' autonomy. The basic posture was paternalistic. Physiciansknew what was best for patients, and the patient'sjob was just to go along. Dax himself has been a critically important actor and symbol in identifying the wrongdoing in that attitude, and raising into high social visibility the proposition that autonomy is a vitally important value; patients are the central actors here and physicians must attend to them in a respectful and careful way. On that point we agree. The place at which I get troubled or confused is what exactly follows if we embrace this important norm of autonomy. Startwith a simple version of two alternatives,perhaps extreme alternatives,to try and sharpen what the issues are. One version of autonomy says:well, it's the physician'sjob, like it's anybody'sjob who needs to respect autonomy, to say to a patient, "What do you want?";the patient says "I want A, B, C," or "I don't want A, B, and C," and then it's just the physician'sjob to implement that. That is a possible interpretationof the law and way of proceeding. I find that interpretationof the law, however, to be quite unsatisfactory.It is not only permissible, but important- I would even say essential-that a somewhat different step be taken by a physician (or anyone dealing with a patient). "What do you want?" Dax says, "I don'twant treatment."At that point I think it is January-February 1998 not only permissiblebut imperativethat whoever hears that respond not with "OK, great, let's go ahead,"but insteadwith, "Well,why exactlydo you want that?Why haveyou come to that conclusion?I wantto explorethatwith you."Now imaginethe next step. Dax says,"None of your business."I think it is then both permissibleand essentialfor the doctor to say,"No, no, it is my business,and not becauseI'm a doctorbut becauseI am anotherhumanbeingwho is necessarilyinvolvedin yourlife.We defineone another in importantkinds of ways,and while, of course,I can'tdefine you, we have to negotiatetogetherwhat our sharedmeaningsare about, what it is that you want me to do or not to do."It is correctnot only for me to say, "Why do you want to do that?"but also permissiblefor me to arguewith you if I disagree,and to arguestrenuouslywith you on a varietyof grounds. Now come the end of the day, yes, it's your life, it's not my life. But the questionis, When have we reachedthe end of the day?When may we terminate this conversationso that I believethat the choice that you'remakingis as consideratea choiceas I think it is morallyobligatoryfor you to make?I know that this can become a kind of trick,and it shouldn'tbe that; this is only the firststep in a conversation. Why do I think it'snot just importantbut imperative that anybodyhearingsucha requeston Dax'spart exploreit with him and evenquarrelwith him?I think we defineone anotherfor one another.We arenot isolatedcreatures,poppedinto thisworld,who chartourselvesonly by what'sin our head.We areintenselysocial creatures.Dax himselfhas becomemorethanjust an individual,he has becomea symboland independent forcethatshapesour way of thinkingaboutourselveswhen we imagineourselvesto be patients.We aremutuallyshapedby ourexpectationin lots of ways. There is one way I want to particularizethat in Dax'scase.All of us, as membersof a society,haveattitudes towardpeople with disabilities.Those of us who are able-bodiedor, as they say correctlyamong disabilityadvocates,those of us who are temporarily able-bodied,often spendan enormousamountof energydenyingthe fact thatour able-bodiedstatusis, in fact, temporary.It is for many,many of us an unattractive,if not to say frightening,possibilityto think of ourselvesas significantlydisabled.Manypeople in this society,for lots of differentreasons,have stereotypicalviewsof disabledpeopleand whattheirpossibilitiesare.Youcorrectme if I misstephere,Dax, but just on the faceof the matter,it seemsto me that until your accidentyou were a memberof the able-bodied 1998 January-February community,and a very able-bodiedmemberat that, for whom yourphysicalprowesswasa matterof great importanceand pride to you. Suddenlyand deeply beyondyourcontrol,in a way thatcanhappenfrighteninglyto any of us, you found yourselfpushedover this dividebetweenthe able-bodiedand the not-ablebodied. But you inevitablybroughtwith you attitudesthatwereshapedat a time when you werecomfortably,happily,proudlya memberof the able-bodied community. Now it seemsto me that havingbeen pushedover thatdividein physicalterms,therestillwasa question, at least,aboutyourattitudinalconcerns,yourattitudinal shift. Let me readone passagefromthis initialconversation thatDax hadwith Dr.White.' Dr.White saidto Dax, "Fromthe very beginning,accordingto what you'vetold me, andwhat'sbeenwrittenin yourhospital record,you had verystrongfeelingsthatyou didn't want the doctorsto go on with your treatment,that you wantedthem to leaveyou aloneand not attempt to sustainyourlife. How do you feelaboutthatat this point?"Dax said in response,"At this point I feel much the sameway.If I felt that I could be rehabilitated to whereI could walkand do otherthingsnormally,I mighthavea differentfeelingaboutit. I don't know. But being blind itselfis one big factorthat influences my thinking on the matter. I know that there'sno way that I want to go on as a blind and a cripple." Now human communication is a chancy and somewhatcrude thing. I only have your words. Dr. White only hadDax'swords.Readingthosewordsand putting myself imaginativelyin the shoes of your physician,or your lawyerasked to representyou, I have a whole series of questions.How realisticwas your perceptionat that point, just a few monthsafter your accident?How realisticwas it of the full rangeof capacitiesthat could be held out to you, even if you werepermanentlyblind,and even if you werepermanently unableto walk (whichit turnsout, of course, you werenot)?How much contacthad you had with peoplewith significantdisabilitiesof thesesorts?How much wereyou devaluingyourown capacity,thinking that in fact you would be able to do nothing more than your mother'sobservationin the subsequent videotape interview.She said that you said at one point, "Youknow,all I'mgoing to be able do is to sit on a streetcornerand sellpencils."Well,of coursewe see todaythatyou areveryactiveanddon'tsellpencils. But this is a very commonfearof able-bodiedpeople HASTINGS CENTER REPORT 15 who havehad no substantialcontactwith peoplewith disabilities. So I would ask myselffirst of all, how realisticis someonelike Dax'ssenseof the realpossibilitiesopen for him?But then secondof all, how can I as a helper, someonewho wants to be usefuland helpfulto him, and communicatein a waythatis fullyunderstandable believablewhat the realrangeof options are to him, disabled,that he, formerlyable-bodiedand now still able-bodiedin his imageof himself,is not ableto see. What do you do? There are many possibilities.You bring people to talk, you discuss,you challenge.All thistakestime. It'snot somethingthatyou canjustsay to Dax, "Well,how realisticareyou?Let'shavea brief discussion."In the kind of immenselydifficult,immenselytraumaticsituationin which he found himself, in the midst of his treatmentand with the physical pain that he was feeling,and with the psychological painof his lossesincludingthe loss of his fatherin the sameaccident,this is not a conversationthat can takeplacein ten minutesor one day.Overhow much time andwith whatkind of constraints? Dax Cowart:Now I know how it feels to be killed with kindness.It makesit more difficultto take the opposingposition, but being the good lawyerthat I am I will do my best (audiencelaughter). The rightto controlyourown bodyis a rightyou're bornwith, not somethingthatyou haveto askanyone else for,not the government,not your treatingphysician, not your next-of-kin.No one has the right to amputateyour armsor your legs without your consent. No one has the rightto removeyour internalorgans without your consent.No one has the right to forceotherkindsof medicaltreatmentupon you without your consent.There is no legitimatelaw, thereis no legitimateauthority,there is no legitimatepower anywhereon the face of this earththat can take the rightawayfrom a mentallycompetenthuman being andgiveit to a state,to a federalgovernment,or to any otherperson. A numberof quotationsconstitutea briefoverview of what othershavesaid throughouthistoryand also give insight into my own feelings.In A Connecticut Yankeein KingArthursCourt,the leading character and one of his companionscome acrossa whole family whichhas almostdied of smallpox.The motherappearsto be the only one still alive.Lateron they discovershe has a fifteen-year-old daughterup in a sleepin a loft who is near-comatose state and almost ing the dead.So they rushed young girl down and began 16 HASTINGS CENTER REPORT administeringaid to her. I'll pick up the quotation there."I snatchedmy liquorflaskfrom my knapsack, but thewomanforbademe andsaid:'No, shedoesnot suffer;it is betterso. It might bringher backto life. None thatbe so good and kindasye arewoulddo her that cruelhurt.Thou go on thy way,and be merciful friendsthatwill not hinder."' I was asking my own physiciansto be merciful friendswho go on theirway and do not hinder.But theywould not listen.In the firstpartof this century, JusticeLouis Brandeiswrote in one of his Supreme Court opinions: "The makersof our Constitution sought to protectAmericans,and their beliefs,their thoughts,their emotions,and their sensations.They conferredas againstthe governmentthe rightto be left of rightsand the right alone,the most comprehensive mostvaluedby civilizedman." WarrenBurger,who laterbecamechief justice,referred to Justice Brandeis:"Nothing suggests that JusticeBrandeisthoughtan individualpossessedthese rightsonly as to sensiblebeliefs,valid thoughts,reasonableemotionsor well-foundedsensations.I suggest that he intendedto includea greatmany foolish,unandevenabsurdideasthatdo not conform, reasonable suchas refusingmedicaltreatmenteven at greatrisk." JusticeBurgerdid not want to encouragefoolish, or absurdconduct,but he did recognize unreasonable, the importancethat the individualhas in makinghis or herown decision.He understoodthatwhatsome of or absurd us might think of as foolish, unreasonable, canalsobe somethingthatis verypreciousanddearto someone else. The EnglishpoetJohnKeats,almost200 yearsago, wrotesimply,"Untilwe aresick,we understandnot." That is so true-until we arethe ones who arefeeling the pain,untilwe arethe oneswho areon thesickbed, we cannot fully appreciatewhat the other person is going through.And even having been theremyself, whatsomeonewho has todayI cannotfullyappreciate beenbadlyburnedis going throughon the burnward. Our mind mercifullyblocksout much of thatpain. When I was in the second grade, a popularjoke concerneda motherwho severelyreprimandedher youngson for cominghome latefromschool.He said, "Mom,now thatI'ma Boy Scout,I stoppedto do my good deedfor the dayand helpedthis littleold granny lady cross the street."She said, "Youngman, it sure doesn'ttakean hourto help one little old grannylady crossthe street."He said, "Well,it sure did this one, 'causeshe didn'twant to go."I was like thatlittle old grannylady;I didn'twant to go. And even todaythere January-February 1998 are many patients who are being forced to endure things that they do not wish to endure,while being takenplacesthat they don'tevenwant to go. John StuartMill, the Englishphilosopher,in his essayOn Liberty,came down on the side of the right to self-determination by dividingacts into those that are self-regardingand those that are other-regarding in nature.Mill concluded that when the act is selfregardingin nature,the individualshould be left to make his or her own decisions.That is preciselymy view. In a medicalcontext, I am sayingthat beforea physicianis allowedto pick up a saw and saw off a patient'sfingersor pick up a scalpeland cut out a patient'seyes,we must makesurethat the physicianhas firstobtainedthat patient'sinformedconsent.I always in there-informed like to stickthe word "voluntary" and voluntaryconsent-because consent that is obtained through coercion or by telling half-truthsor withholdingthe full measureof riskand benefitis not truly consent. Medicalprovidersneed to understand that patients do not lose their constitutionalrights simplybecausethey find themselvesbehinda hospital wall. They have the same constitutionalrights that the rest of us have, that we expect and enjoy outside hospitalwalls. Fortunatelytoday we have many protectionsthat we did not havewhen I was in the hospitalin 1973 and 1974. We havelegallyenforceableadvancedirectives such as durable power of attorney and other healthcareproxies.Studies,though, haveshown that evenwhen theseadvancedirectivesarepartof the patient'shospitalrecords,overhalf the time they areignoredby the patient'sphysician. When I was in the hospitaltherewere many reasons I wanted to refusetreatment,but one was overriding-the pain.The painwas so excruciating,it was so far beyondany pain that I everknew was possible, that I simplycould not endureit. I was very naive.I had alwaysthoughtin that day and age, 1973, that a doctorwould not let his or her patientundergothat kind of pain;theywould be givenwhateverwas needed to controlit. Then I found out thatwas not true.I foundout laterthatmuch morecouldhavebeendone for my pain. There were other important issues, too. One, though it was a distant second, was what Dr. Burt mentioned,my qualityof life. I just did not feel that living my life blind, disfigured,with my fingersamputatedand at that time not even ableto walk,would be worthwhile.With that quality of life it did not seem that I would everwant to live. I have freelyadJanuary-February 1998 mitted for many years now that I was Dax Cowart in 1972. wrong about that. I want to clarify this, though. Freedom, true freedom, not only gives us the right to make the correct choices; it also has to give us the right sometimes to make the wrong choices. In my case, however, it was a moot point whether I was wrong as far as my quality of life went, because that was a secondary issue. The immediate issue, the urgent issue, was that my pain was not being taken care of. That was why I wanted to die. Today I'm happy; in fact I even feel that I'm happier than most people. I'm more active physically than I thought I ever would be. I've taken karate for a couple of years, I've climbed a 50-foot utility pole with the assistance of a belay line on the ropes course. I do other mental things, like write poetry and practice law. That is not to say, though, that the doctors were right. To say that would reflect a mentality that says, all's well that ends well, or the ends justify the means-whatever means necessary to achieve the results are okay to use. That totally ignores the pain that I had to go HASTINGS CENTER REPORT 17 "When is the end of the day? Is the end of the day at the end of one day, at through.I checkmyselfon thisveryoften,severaltimesa year,sinceI do speak so much. I ask if the same thing were to happentoday underidenticalcircumstances,would I still want the freedom?Knowingwhat I know now, would I still want the freedomto refusetreatmentand die?And the answeris alwaysyes, a resoundingyes. If I thinkabouthavingto go throughthat kind of pain again,I know that it'snot somethingI wouldwant.Anotherindividual maywell makea differentdecision.That'sthe beautyof freedom;that'shis or her choiceto do so. the end of one week, or at the end of one year? For me, one hour was an eternity." Burt:Yousaidat the end of yourremarksthat if you had to, if it happenedall overagainto you, you would nonethelesscome to the sameconclusion.If instead of this happeningto you, imaginefor a minute that therewould be somebodyin exactlythe samesituationthat you werein, but that todayyou werecalledin to talkwith this person.This personhad also saidto his or her physicians,"Idon'twantto be treated.Stopnow."Whatwouldyou sayto that person? -Dax Cowar "The time that I was asking for was time to address your problem in the best way a doctor is trained to do. If you insist now that you're not going to give me that time, it frustrates what I know I can do as a caretaker. Look, a discussion needs to take place; that's what I want, rather than people talking as if they are in isolation booths." -Robert Burt Cowart:I would say to that person,just as you suggestedearlier,"Whatare I do not urge,when a physiciangoesto a patient'sbedsideand yourconcerns?" the patientsays,"Doc, I don'twant to be treated,leaveme alone,"that the physiciansay,"It'syour decision"and walkaway.The physicianhasa duty to informthe patient,as well as he or she can, what in all honestycan be done and then solicit the patient'sconcerns.I'm not talkingabout paintingsome rosyscenariothat is reallynot accurate.So to answeryour specificquestion, wereI calledto thatpatient'sbedside,I wouldwantto askwhy he or shewanted to refusetreatment.I would expectthat one of the answersmight be the pain. I would then say,"Ifthatwereaddressed,would that changethingsfor you?"They maysayyes, and they maysayno. I wouldtry to givethatperson the benefitof my own experiences-notjustthe positivepoints,but the negative ones, becauseit took me sevenyearsfollowingthe explosionbeforeI even beganto get on my feetagainand life becamereallyworthliving.ButI would try to reaffirmthe person,let him or her know what I thoughtwas possible, what I thoughtcould help, but I would not skirtthe problems.One of the problemswe havetoday,for example,is thatonce patientsareout of the multimillion-dollarhospitalfacilitiesand awayfrom all the nursesand doctors and underthere,theydon'toften havegood support.They haveunderstaffed fundedgovernmentagenciesto relyon in most cases,and often they fall far shortof whatthey shouldbe. Burt:That'sinteresting.I continue to be puzzledabout whetherwe significantlydisagree.I completelybuy yourpropositionthat thereis a righthere,a rightof autonomouschoice.The only point that I keep pushingis your old questionof how that is implemented.Let me, if you will, try to push you a bit morejust on this point. To me it is the crucialquestion.This imaginary patientsaysto you thatfirstof all there'sa pain problemand it'snot being addressed.I takeit thatgivenwhatyou now knowaboutthe possibilitiesof pain control,you would then startmovingaroundand see to it that such treatment would be available-the kind that at the time you were in the hospital wasn'tmadeavailableto you. Am I right? Cowart:Yes. 18 HASTINGS CENTER REPORT 1998 January-February Burt:So you would fight for them. What, though,if theysaidto you, "Don'tfightfor me. Go away.My life isn'tworth living. I don'tcarewhat the possibilityof getting on top of this pain is, just go away."What would you say then? Cowart:At some point you have to say, "Okay,it's yourdecision." Burt:Yes,at some point, but thatday?The nextweek? If not rightaway,areyou comfortablein arguingwith them? Cowart: I would feel comfortable in confronting them. I would not say argue,but I would discussit with them, even confrontthem. Burt:What do you meanby confront? Cowart:Takean opposingposition,discussit, andhave a livelydebateaboutit. I haveno problemwith that. Burt: I have anotherquestion.The observationthat you just made, that it took you sevenyearsto get to the point wherelife seemedfullyworthwhileis a very powerfulone. Would you say to our imaginarypatient, "Youknow, the seven yearstime, it was hard time. Lookedat fromthe otherside,it now feelsto me worth it, and it might feel like that to you, too"? Cowart:That would be the honestway to do it. Burt: What if they said, "No, you'redifferentfrom me, it just can'tbe. I can'tdo it, I can'tdo it"?Is there anythingyou would do then? Cowart:This goes backto yourquestion,When is the end of the day?Is the end of the dayat the end of one day,at the end of one week,or at the end of one year? To answertruthfully,I don'tthink I can saywhen it is without knowingmore about the circumstances.For me, one hour was an eternity,with the pain I was going through. Certainly no longer than one day Theremay be timeswhen underthosecircumstances. we would want to extend that to a week or maybea month, dependingon how severethe pain was. But the problemI see in doing that is that I don'tbelieve our healthcareproviderswould be honestabout letting go of a patientearlierthanwhateverwe set up as the maximumtime. Our health care providershave been entrenchedin paternalismsince probablythe 1998 January-February beginningof the profession,and untilwe breakout of the paternalisticmode, I can'tsee our physiciansallowing patients to exercisetheir free choice unless they'relegallybound to. AudienceQuestion:Mr. Burt,when is it okay for a doctorto say to a patientwho refuseslifesavingtreatment, "I agreewith you"?The patient'sin a lot of pain,she'ssuffering,and hasa chronicillness.When is it okay to say,"Allright,you can call an end to it?" to When is the end of the day?When is it appropriate that to the patient? acknowledge Burt: I agreethat there must be an end of the day. Otherwiseone is disrespectfulof the person who is saying"No, no, no-enough." I also agreethat you should make it clearto patientsfrom the beginning that ultimatelyit'stheirchoice.But then I would say it's appropriateto say, "Give me time. Give me an opportunity, at least." Now once you say that, you'reon the line and you must continue to spend time with this person-respectful time, extensive time. That itself is a very risky thing for you to do. It's a very considerablecommitment, and you can'tgo into it lightly. You can'tgo into it lightly as a friend, and you can'tgo into it lightly as a professional.So you've got to be prepared to follow through by saying, in effect, "I'm here with you, I'm going to stay with you." But also, "I would hope and expect that as we struggle together it will become clearerto the both of us when that end of the day is. But at least right now it's not clear to me that we're there."Then see what the person says. This is not saying something and then vanishing for two weeks, becauseyou'regoing on vacation somewhere or have other things to do. The commitment is enormously burdensome for a caretakerto take on in these situations. But that to me is the heart of caretaking.Is that an answer? Same Questioner: Not really.As Dax said earlier,he had torturous pain. Are you saying that this patient should go through such suffering for this delayed, extended dialogue that you want? Burt: Well, look, when I say "Give me, time," I would hope, particularlyon these pain issues, that one would also take some action. The provision of adequate pain control in this culture today is a disgrace, but it shouldn't be. Medical technology that is extraordinarily responsive in lots of ways is available. It's a great puzzle in a way-part of the sense of isolation and disHASTINGS CENTER REPORT 19 regardfor patients-that we aredoing so little to implement what we know about addressingissues of pain.Lotsof pain,though,is complicatedto dealwith. So when I askfor time, I don'tmean,give me time becauseI'm going down to the cafeteriasince I'm hungry.What I meanis, give me time to get the resources that I know existthatcan addressthis in some way.If it turnsout that therearen'tthoseresources,or I really triedto get them and they did not work,then I come back to the patient and say, "Okay,I failed on that score;now we haveto go fromhere."At that point, it does makesensefor me to say,"Okay,this is intolerable for you. That'sit, that'senough."So the time that I was askingfor,was time to addressyour problemin the best way a doctoris trainedto do. To the patient who said,"Whatdo you mean,giveyou time?"I'dsay, "Giveme time to do my job. I acknowledgethatwe're not meetingyourneedsrightnow,but I thinkwe can, though it will take some time for me to do that."If you insist now that you'renot going to give me that time, it frustrateswhat I know I can do as a caretaker. Look, a discussionneeds to take place;that'swhat I want,ratherthanpeopletalkingas if they arein isolation booths. Cowart:A physicianhas to establishrapportwith his or herpatient,treatthatpatientas a humanbeing,let the patient know that he or she reallycares.I don't knowwhetherit'staughtor whetherit'sjust pickedup or by watchingotherphysicians,but I think thereis a professionaldistance,a real displacement,by physiciansthat is counterproductive for good medicaltreatment.I'llgiveyou an example.When I wasin the hospital, the directorof the burn ward wanted to do surgeryon my fingers.He felt I could probablyget someuseout of my hand,but I wouldn'tdo it, because the surgeryI had had before on my hands was so painful. Therewas a medicalstudent,though,who was assigned to work with me. He'd come by every day. We'dhavefriendly,heart-to-heart talks,and I likedthe a lot. He wanted me to have guy my handsoperated on and askedme why I would not allowthe doctorto do it. I explainedto him about the pain. He said, "Wellif I guaranteedyou thatyou would be keptout of pain, would you?"I told him I'dconsiderit, but I just didn'tsee how he could guaranteethat, especially since he was a medicalstudent.But he continuedto talkwith me until finallyI agreedto talk to the director of the burnwardaboutit, who then camein and assuredme that he would do everythinghe could to 20 HASTINGS CENTER REPORT keepme out of pain.He would give me as muchpain medicationas he possiblycould and not jeopardize my life. It wasn't until then that I agreed to the surgery,and he did keephis wordon the paincontrol. That is more the model of what should take place. But the physicianshould not havethe powerto force upon the patienta long, ongoingdiscussionlike that over an extendedperiod of time, whetherit be days or weeks. AudienceQuestion:Mr. Cowart,you havefocuseda lot on the physiciansup to this point. How wereyou treatedby yournurses? Cowart:Overall,I was very impressedby theirgood care.Nursestend to understand,to havea verycaring side to them that I don'tsee nearly and compassionate as often in physicians.Sometimesyou canhavenurses who are barracudas, though, and a physicianwho is and very loving compassionate.I don't know how or how muchof the generaldifferenceis gender-based, much of it is in the training;I suspectit's some of both. Above all, nursesare there with the patients; they'rein the trenchesworkingwith the patients,seeing what the patient'sgoing throughon a minute-tominute, hour-to-hour basis. They seem to have a much better understandingof and empathyfor the patientthan I'veseen in mostphysicians. AudienceQuestion:Mr. Burt,I'm an RN and a hospice nurse. I have two patientsright now; both of them have recliners,both of them haveTV remotes, both of them havemorphine,and both of them have pain. In the last two weeks,one patientsaid, "I have everythingI need.I havemy recliner,my remote,my morphine,and I'm fine."The other patientsaid, "I hatemy life.All I haveis thisstinkingreclinerandTV and my morphine.This isn'ta life."Now in the last week,one of thosepatientshas died becausehe made a decision to stop all of his medicationexcept his morphine,andhe died. I wasnot readyforhim to die, but he was readyto die. If I had arguedwith him, whose need would be met?It would not be his need, wouldit? Burt:I guessI wouldsaythatif you hadstoppedhim, But this word"arguing," thatwould be inappropriate. maybewe get hungup on it. Importuning,offeringto explore,not just taking this patient'sstatementin a way that I'm sureyou didn't-that is appropriateto moveinto. 1998 January-February SameQuestioner:I mean,we talkeda lot! Burt: Good-that's right.The root of this is in the of individualinteraction.It soundsto me, particularity evenin the minutein which I haveheardyou describe this, thatyou reachedwhat I wouldagreeis the end of the day.That is, the end of an involved,caring,committedrelationshipin which it wasveryclearthatyou werenot going to walkaway.That'sthe most thatyou can offer.You'vegot to offer that, and you did. And hospicecaregenerallydoes. I see the forcesof disregard,of speedyresolution,of turningawayfrom patients,of beingaversiveto deathand dying,for example, as so stronggenerallyin the medicalprofession thatby contrasthospiceis a wonderfulexception. So, too, is the caregiverwho maylovinglychallenge a patient'srequests.You ask, whose needs are such caregiversmeeting?Do they do it only for their patients?Or do they do it for theirpatientsand themselves?There'sa mix in thesethings.Who can drawa strictline and say, "Hey,I know that I'm just doing this for you and not for me?"I would turn the question around. A patient is complainingand saying, thatyou do is wrong.Yougiveme the re"Everything clinerand I don'tlike it. You give me the morphine and I don'tlike it. So let me out of here."If you say "Right,"what and who would you be doing that for? Manypeoplewhom I'vetalkedto involvingthe careof "difficult"patients,when they are honestwith themselves,say it'sveryhardto makesurethatwhatthey're doing is not for themselves but for the patients. Sometimes,in hangingin there,it'sa mix-no, it'salwaysa mix. The goal is only that it shouldbe principallyfor the patientand only secondarilyforyou. But that'snot an easygoal to get to either.Youget closest to it by struggle,sweat,honesty,reflection. Audience Question: Mr. Cowart,I'm trying to understandyour thinking.Youwerein the hospitaland kept sayingyou wantedto die, and then you werereleased home without much care. You said it took sevenyearsfor you to turn your life around,but you did. You didn'tkill yourself.At what point did you say,"Iwant to live"? Cowart:I don'tknow whereor when that point was. When I wasin the burnwardandwas told I wasgoing to live regardlessof whetherI had that last skin graft operationor not, I told myself,I'm just going to do whateverI can to make the best of a bad situation.I didn'treallylive up to that. Subsequently, and within January-February 1998 that seven-yearperiod, I tried to take my own life twice-three times if you count the time I crawled overthe hospitalbed railstryingto get to the window to jump out of an eight-storywindow.But in 1980, and all duringthe entiresevenyearsafterI was in the hospital,I wasnot ableto sleepverywell at all. I'dstay awakemost of the night and then could hardlystay awakeduringthe day.I wastryingto go to law school, too, and everytime I felt like I was gettingsomething going, I couldn'tsleep then and I couldn'tfunction.I felt just slammedrightdown to the groundagain.In 1980 Dr.Whitewasableto help me sleepbetter.Then I reallysawmy life turnaround. AudienceQuestion:Mr. Cowart,it seemsto me that you are a perfectexampleof what now seems to be successin spiteof any physicaldisability.Do you now feelat all grateful,thinkingback?Areyou gladthatthe doctorsfoughtyour requestto die? Cowart:I do not feel gratefulto anyonefor fighting my requestto die. What I do feel gratefulto them for is that I believethey honestlyfelt theywere actingin my best interest.But no, I'm not glad they forcibly treatedme becausethe pain that I went throughwas pure hell. We lose sight of how painfulpain can be. Einsteinapparentlyonce talkedaboutcomparingsitting five minuteson a parkbench besidea beautiful girl with sittingfive minuteson a hot plate and said, "that'srelativity!" Audience Question: In fighting for your right to choose your fate, were you also fighting physically againstthe carethat was forcedupon you?Wereyou physicallytryingto refusetreatment? Cowart:Oh yes!I would havedone anythingto keep them awayfrom me. I used everythingI had at my disposalto try to do that. Same Questioner: Do you suppose that this fight within you, this struggle,this energyyou wereputting out, actuallymadeyou live? Cowart:Yes. I think it was, ironically,counterproductive for what I wanted.There was a burn ward nurse I laterlearnedof who left the hospitalbeforeI got there. She would not take anythingoff her patients, no matter how badly they were burned and what their expectation was about living. She also wouldn'ttakeany lip fromthem, and even the other HASTINGS CENTER REPORT 21 "Don Cowart has certainly left a lasting impression with me. No other burn patient has made it so clear nurses were appalled by how rough and how rude she was to these patients. Her patients were so angry that they would, literally,have killed her on the spot. The other nurses began to notice that some of her patients were living, who would not normally have lived. What may have been at work there-this is only my hunch-is that such passion, even when it's negative, helps. When people die, it can be just lack of any passion, negative or positive-just the languishing. Audience Question: Mr. Cowart, at the time that you were fighting against treatment, your mother was fighting for continued treatment. Did you consider getting an attorney at that time? what a difficult time they're having and that they really do desire to die. That lasting impression has carried throughout my entire life. Every burn patient that I take care of or any other patient who is critically ill-when it comes down to whether he lives or dies-I can't help remembering Cowart: I asked the attorney who was representing me in a personal injury suit against the oil company whose duty it had been to maintain the pipeline properlyto help me. He had been a long-time friend of my father's,and he also knew me. He would not help me get the legal resources.He did go to the doctors, though, and say, "Youhave got to do more to keep him out of pain. It's ridiculous that you'renot doing more." I tried to get family members, relatives, friends to find another attorney for me. I wasn't able to do that. I asked the hospital staff to take me to a pay phone there on the floor to call one, and they said there weren'tany pay phones. I said, "Takeme to the lobby, then." They said, "Burn patients can't leave the ward." I said, "Well let me use the phone at the nurses'station. I know you have a phone there because I hear it ringing all the time." They said, "No, patients aren'tallowed to use it. It's only for staff."I wrote at least one letter privatelywith a nurse. I dictated a letter to that nurse, and he apparently addressed it to my uncle. The letter (I don't know whether it was the original or a copy) ended up in the doctor's file, without my knowledge. The patient may have a right not to be treated, but without an advocate-someone at the hospital who has the authority and power to act on behalf of the patient-it's hard to enforce that right. Finally it was Dr. White, the psychiatristwho was brought in to declareme incompetent, who both declared me competent and contacted an attorney for me. The attorney finally came down from Dallas. We talked. He said he'd do what he could, but I never heard back from him. Don Cowart and in my mind should I stop or should I continue. This is an ongoing Audience Question: Mr. Cowart, when you were first injured, if your intractable pain had been effectively managed, do you think that your attitude would have been different? Do you think you might have had a very different outlook as to prolonging your life? Do you think that the pain was really the main issue that wasn't being addressed by your physicians and the medical community, and that that interfered with your ability to really look at the future? battle that we have to individualize." -Duane L. Larson,MD Directorof the burnunit, JohnSealyHospital,Universityof TexasMedicalBranch,Galveston "DaxsCase" fromthe videotape, 22 HASTINGS CENTER REPORT Cowart: Your concern is what I hear time after time from many people in who was calledin, exthe healthcareprofessions.Dr. White, the psychiatrist pressedthat same type of concern. Another concern Dr. White had was whetherI hada majorissuewith control,whetheronce I showedthatI was in control,thenI wouldwantto be treated.Thatjustwasnot the case.It was not the future that I was concerned with; it was the presentmoment, the pain that I was undergoing.I knewthatthe physicalpainwouldbe gone eventually,but I was not willing to tolerateit for long enough to get beyond it. Evenif my January-February 1998 : ...'... '.. S:.::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::: ...............: ::.: i'-^!... '' ' ? .'" . ...: .:..... - . :?".': .sS?. ...: ...?:l .... :.-,:: :.':lf : ......: .. '"'i ?I 't:s- ..'^: ?' .......... ................ S... : me declared incompetent..... He refused to do it and in ture. Possibly without the -pain , and .possibly with.- think that I would want to havebeen treated,because ofmy physicalcondition what and I did see asthe fuchiatrist,as you know. ture.Possiblywithout the pain, and possibly with muchbetter professionalsupport,maybeI could have beenpersuaded to go aheadandaccepttreatment. But you know,a psychiatrist was not calledin to try to a yearinto helpme with these concernsuntil almost And then they called the psychiamy hospitalization. trist in, not for for the th purpose of helping but to have have in, not me, of me, but to trist pe helping me declared incompetent. He refusedto do it andin fact found found me me competent, and so so did did the the second second psyfact competent, and psy- chiatrist, asyouknow. AudienceQuestion:Mr. Burt,I get the impression thatboththe medicalprofession and the societyassumea temporary incompetence in anybody Whois in severepainor in severeemotionalgrief.Do you take the wordof somebodyin severepainas at thatmomenttrulytheirdecision? Is a presumption of temporaryincompetence justifiable? January-February 1998 Dax Cowart Burt: I don't like the language, "prein 1996. sumption of temporary incompetence." It has a disrespectful and excessive quality to it. I don't think we should operate on such a premise. What I do think is that people in grief or extraordinarypain deserve a response by a whole range of caretakers,personal and professional: "I'm with you and I'll stick with you, and I'll be as helpful as I possibly can in working this through with you. I won't abandon you." Sometimes, in fact maybe even frequently, I think people who are in severe grief or severe pain have trouble, because they feel so hopeless, believing that people are responding to them in this way. So it takes an awful lot of assurance-not just words but being there when it counts, and it's not something that you can just say once and have it sink in to someone in great physical or psychological pain. Now I don't call that incompetence; I call that humanity-our human condition. It's naturally how people respond in times of enormous stress, woe, and trouble. In organizing caretakHASTINGS CENTER REPORT 23 ing we should be thinkingof ourselvesas responding to that-not just in cheapwords,and that takestime. Audience Question: It seems to me that you, Mr. Cowart,actuallymadea veryarticulatedefenseof Mr. Burt'spositionwhen you so ablyidentifiedthe essentials of informed consent, making the very clear point, well respectedand recognizedin medical-legal law, that informedvolitionalconsentdemandsa full appraisaland understandingof the risksand benefits of the therapy.The difficultythat I see Mr. Burt focusingon here is that thesedecisionsdon'ttakeplace instantaneouslyin time. Evena patientwho is not in pain, to make a fully informeddecision about the risksversusbenefitsof treatment,hasto be ableto appropriatea differentset of attitudesand expectations, and the processfor that is one of knowledgeand dialogue and information.Setting aside the pain issue, which ought to be aggressively manageable,how does your own experiencehelp us understandhow to balance respectingthe patient'srequestwith confidence that enough time has been given to the patient to allow a truly informedpersonalassessmentof what the risksand benefitsare? Cowart:Assumingthat pain is not an issue and that there'snot some otherissuepresentanalogousto pain as faras the immediacyof the situationgoes, I would not be nearlyas inclinedto favora veryshorttime pe- 24 HASTINGS CENTER REPORT riod. I probablywould favora longerperiodof time, maybeweeks,maybeeven months, but I don'tthink that I would be in favorof years.As faras physicians beingable to workwith a patientduringthat time, I think it would probablybe good in instanceswhere you don'thavethe immediacythat somethinglike severephysicalpain requires.The troubleI haveis how you go aboutassessingwhatis sufficienttime fromthe patient'sviewpoint, since we're all different. I just knowthat for myselfI would like to havethe rightto makemy own decisionsat zeropoint in time.At the same time I'm willing to forgo some of my own autonomyin the interestof betterdecisionsbeingmade. WhatI don'tknowis how to determinealways,as Dr. Burtcallsit, when the end of the day has come. If the patientgivesawaysome of thatautonomy,I justdon't know how you go about protectingthe patientso he or shecanstillsay,"Okay,I'veheardyou out, I'vetried whatyou said,and it'snot for me." Acknowledgments Quotation from "Dax'sCase"used with permissionof Choice in Dying, 1035 30th Street,N.W., Washington, D.C. 20007. References 1. Fromthe transcriptmade of the initial videotapeand published as an appendixto Robert Burt, TakingCareof Strangers: Relations(New York:The Free TheRuleof Law in Doctor-Patient Press,1979), pp. 174-80. January-February I 998
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