Parish Profile
Kincumber Parish
•
St Paul’s’ – Avoca Drive, Kincumber
•
St Bede’s – Mimosa Street, Saratoga
• St David’s – Yodalla Place, Avoca Beach
December 2010
Profile of Anglican Parish of Kincumber
As of December, 2010
Our Current need
OVERVIEW
Focus of the Parish
OUR MISSION: To proclaim Jesus Christ and encourage everyone to be His disciples
OUR VISION: To be a diverse multi-congregational parish, each congregation having a solid core
of committed Christians and strong connections to local communities.
The strength of the parish is in the number of committed Christians undertaking homebased Bible
Study and fellowship. There are a total of 29 such groups who meet regularly to study the Bible
and support each other alongside meeting together each Sunday for worship.
The parish has a growing and thriving children's ministry based at the contemporary Sunday
evening se@k and family service, which is now attended by more than 40 children.
Location and Suburbs Kincumber Anglican Parish is an Evangelical Parish within the Anglican
Diocese of Newcastle NSW. The parish covers the major Central Coast suburbs of St Hubert's
Island, Daley's Point, Empire Bay, Bensville, Kincumber, Davistown, Saratoga, Green Point,
Killcare, Pretty Beach, Hardy’s Bay, Wagstaffe, MacMaster's Beach, Copacabana and Avoca
Beach.
Boundary description
Commencing at the intersection of The Entrance Road and Avoca Drive and bounded thence by a
straight line to the outlet of Bulbaring Lagoon on the South Pacific Ocean at Bulbaring Bay thence
southerly and westerly by that ocean to Wagstaff Point thence generally northerly by the eastern
shore of Brisbane Water to the entrance of Erina Creek and embracing Riley’s Island and St.
Hubert’s Island thence easterly by that creek to a point opposite the intersection of the Central
Coast Highway and Avoca Drive thence southerly to the point of commencement.
Local area and facilities
Schools
• Pre Schools - Kinburra at Kincumber, Sunshine and numerous others
• Primary Schools – Kincumber, Brisbania at Saratoga, Avoca Beach, Copacabana,
Empire Bay, Pretty Beach
• High School – Kincumber
• Private Schools – Green Point Christian College (K – 12)
- Coast Community School
- Holy Cross Primary School, Kincumber
• Kincumber Community College for short courses (Gosford Council)
Child Care - Numerous
Retirement Villages – Brentwood at Kincumber, Broadwater Court at Kincumber, Frost Estate at
Kincumber, Waterford Village at Kincumber, Alloura Waters at Davistown, The Cove at Daley’s
Point
Van Village – Nautical Village, South Kincumber; Broadlands Estate, Green Point
Nursing Homes – Veronica Nursing Home at Brentwood Village
Community and sporting activities - Kincumber Neighbourhood Centre, Sporting and recreation
clubs, Surf Clubs (Kilcare, MacMasters Beach, Copacabana, Avoca Beach), Bowling clubs.
Kincumber Festival, ovals at Avoca, Kincumber and South Kincumber, tennis courts at Avoca
Beach and S. Kincumber, Skate Board area at S. Kincumber, Swimming Centres, Gymnasium
(Health & Fitness Centre)
Community Youth facilities – Youth Centre and Neighbourhood Centre, Kincumber
Council Library - Kincumber,
Shopping Centres – Green Point, Saratoga, Davistown, Kincumber, Avoca Beach, (Erina Fair,
major shopping complex, just outside our local area)
Transport – most suburbs are served by local buses, but many are infrequent and inaccessible to
elderly people. Ferry Service - Saratoga and Hardy’s Bay to Woy Woy; From Patonga to Palm
Beach.
Community Health Facilities – Kincumber Community Health Centre (part of North Sydney
Health); Youth clinic at Kincumber Youth Centre
Welfare - Kincumber Neighbourhood Centre.
Op shops at local Uniting Church, St. Vincent de Paul, Kincumber and South Kincumber,
Salvation Army at Green Point
Local developments – Cycleway and walkway - Kincumber to Saratoga and Davistown,
Playgrounds at Kincumber, Coastal Walkway
Environmental areas – Kincumber Eco Garden, Bouddi National Park
Industrial Areas – South Kincumber industrial area
Housing – Residential, flats, low cost housing, manufactured home villages, men’s hostel, group
homes, retirement villages
Web addresses for local council etc
http://www.gosford.nsw.gov.au/library/localhistory/suburbs/documents/kincumber.html
http://www.gosford.nsw.gov.au/
http://www.visitcentralcoast.com.au/
Local Non Anglican Churches
• Uniting Church, Kincumber
• Catholic at Kincumber and S. Kincumber (Historical Church with St. Joseph’s Spirituality
Conference Centre attached)
• Baptist Church, Green Point
• Coast Community Church, Bensville & Hardy’s Bay
• Life Church, Kincumber
• Jehovah’s Witness, Bensville
Local Community profile (Large increase in population during summer months)
Some facts of interest: Local Government projections for the Parish of Kincumber indicate that
there will be very little population growth within the next 20 years
DEMOGRAPHICS OF LOCAL COMMUNITY
Community demographics from the 2006 Census statistics
a) Person characteristics
Region
Total persons (excluding overseas
visitors)
31633
Males
15238
Females
16395
Indigenous persons
b) Age
479
Region
0–4
1766
5 – 14
4724
15 – 24
4058
25 – 54
11931
55 – 64
3384
65 +
5776
Median age of persons
c) Occupation
Region
Technicians and Trades
2208
Professionals
2749
Clerical and Administrative
2032
Sales Workers
1689
Community and Personal Service
1376
Labourers
1226
Managers
1667
Machinery Operators and Drivers
554
d) Employment by industry
Region
School Education
767
Hospitals
552
Residential Care
309
Cafes, Restaurants and Takeaway
490
Supermarket and Grocery
82
e) Religion
Region
Anglican
9421
Catholic
8581
No religion
4657
Uniting Church
1781
Presbyterian/Reformed
884
f) Income
Region
Median individual income
Median household income
Median family income
g) Family characteristics
Region
Total families
8589
Couple with children
3926
Couple without children
3168
One parent families
1410
Other families
85
Kincumber Anglican Parish Staff Team (as of December, 2010)
Rector: Vacant from February 2011
Daniel Connor (Full time)
Position: Assistant Minister
Dan was Ordained Priest in the Diocese of Newcastle this year. He has particular responsibility for
the 5.30pm Service held in the Kincumber Youth Centre each Sunday night and has shared
responsibility for the 10am service at Ministry Centre. Dan is married to Harriet.
Richard Harvey (Part time – 0.5 FTE)
Position: Associate Priest
Richard joined the staff in February 2010 to provide leadership and oversight of St. David’s, Avoca
Beach. He has also been involved in local house to house visiting and visiting in local Retirement
Villages. He heads up a Committee which is commencing a new Ministry to Seniors. Married to
Libby
Ken Yapp
Position: Pastor - St Bede's Saratoga (Voluntary Capacity with some financial assistance)
Ken is a retired clergyman who has settled at Green Point with his wife Gay. Ken undertakes a
pastoral role at St Bede's Saratoga.
Nena Goldman (0.75 FTE)
Position: Children's and Youth Ministry Worker (Leaves April 2011)
Nena has long been involved with children and youth. Firstly in children's literature and then in
ministry. Nena coordinates Scripture in local schools, and writes much of the material taught. She
teaches and is licensed for assessing those working with children, and for drug related issues.
Married to John
Pastoral Assistant (Part Time)
Position: Vacant from March 2011
Luise Bellchambers (0.5 FTE)
Position: Parish Administrative Assistant (Part Time)
Luise administers the Parish office, provides secretarial duties, telephone contact and follow up,
organises weddings, baptisms, funerals, tradespeople, etc
Church Property - Church centres and distance from Rectory.
Rectory – 21 Brennan Ave., Kincumber
Rectory to St Paul’s and Ministry Centre, 1km takes 3 mins
Rectory to St Bede’s 5.8km takes 10 mins
Rectory to St David’s 3.7km takes 5 mins
The Rectory was built in 2001, a 4 bedroom house with separate office at 21 Brennan Ave.,
Kincumber, 2251
St. Paul’s Church (cnr of Avoca Drive and Empire Bay Drive) is a Heritage listed building, seating
approximately 50 people. It is used for a mid week Communion Service each Wednesday, on
some other special occasions, and for some baptisms, weddings, and funerals. An historic
cemetery is adjacent, now only available to Pioneer families and a columbarium which has limited
space remaining.
St. Paul’s Ministry Centre (the other side of Avoca Drive to St. Paul’s Church) has been used for
most Sunday services and other Parish functions for many years. It holds a congregation of about
120. A modern kitchen was added in 2005 with a tea/meeting room, toilet facilities and foyer .
This building is limited by insufficient space for a children’s ministry during services.
functions – dinners and combined events - are also held in this Centre.
Many
St. Paul’s House is adjacent to the Ministry Centre. Church offices are housed in this building
with space for Administrative Staff, the Children’s worker, Parish Treasurer, and is used for smaller
meetings of Parish – mostly staff. The grounds act as a parking area (which is insufficient for large
gatherings), some of it has a bitumen surface.
St. Bede’s Church, 11 Mimosa Ave., Saratoga - has seating for 100. Attached to the church is a
meeting room and kitchen. Parking is either off street or at the rear of the building, although
presently there are drainage problems and investigation is continuing into applying road base to
the area.
St. David’s Church, is situated at the corner of Cape Three Points Road and Yodalla Place,
Avoca Beach. The main part of the building started life as a school building but has been on its
present site for many years. In the late 1980s a Hall, kitchen and toilet facilities were added. The
church holds approximately 100 people. For a particularly large service chairs can be placed in the
hall and/or on the western verandah where amplification is situated.
The Parking Area is surfaced with road base and is insufficient for large congregations. A pathway
is about to be constructed from the lower parking area to ensure safe, improved access
The local Kincumber Youth and Neighbourhood Centres are hired for Sunday evening services
(Se@k) and occasional Combined Parish Services (1 – 2 per year). This has been necessary to
accommodate the growing children’s ministry which was not possible at the Ministry Centre.
REGULAR CHURCH SERVICES:
St. Paul’s church, 9am Wednesdays, - a formal Prayer book Communion Service, clergy robed,
traditional hymns with organ accompaniment. Morning Tea served afterward. Caters particularly
for those unable to get to early formal Sunday Services. Average attendance – 15 -20
Ministry Centre – 8am Sunday – Formal, Prayer Book, Communion Service, traditional hymns,
with organ or clavinova, choir and sung responses. Clergy robed. Average attendance
approximately 40 - 45.
10am Sunday – Informal Morning Prayer service from printed Order of Service and/or Data
Projector, contemporary songs and some traditional hymns, led by music group (with singers, flute,
keyboard, drums, guitar). Holy Communion once a month. – Average Attendance 60 – 80
St. Bede’s Saratoga, - 8.30am Communion Service, 4 out of 5 services, All age service on 1st
Sunday of the month. Some prayer book services, some with approved service cards. Traditional
hymns with organ. Average attendance – 40 – 45 adults with 3 – 6 children regularly. Age of
majority of congregation over 60
St. David’s, Avoca Beach – 9.30am Holy Communion (Prayer Book Second Order) except for
4th Sunday of month when there is a Morning Prayer Service, with printed liturgy (different each
month). Clergy robed. Music is contemporary/traditional with clavinova (organ or piano). Average
attendance 50 – 70. Most aged over 70.
Se@k – 5.00pm Sundays. Family service, printed Order of Service/Data Projector.
Contemporary songs led by singers and band. Children’s ministry - 5 classes (crèche, preschool,
infants, primary, seniors). Average attendance – 55 -60 adults, 40 children.
CHURCHWARDENS: Until the end of 2010 there were 1 Rector’s Warden, (presently from St.
David’s Avoca Beach), and 1 elected Warden for each of the Sunday Services. All of these are
members of Parish Council. From 2011, with the new Diocesan Ordinance (passed in 2010), there
will be changes to the makeup of Parish Council.
PARISH COUNCIL. In 2010 this has consisted of 8 Wardens from across the Parish, and 4
members (including Secretary and Mission Secretary). New elections will be held at the Parish
Annual General Meeting in March 2011.
LAY LITURGICAL ASSISTANTS/CHALICE ASSISTANTS –14 across the Parish
LOCAL MINISTRY COMMITTEES – each Centre/congregation has a Ministry Committee or
similar who, under the Rector, take responsibility and ensure smooth running of services and other
ministries.
SPECIAL RELIGIOUS EDUCATION (SRE) – Presently coordinated by Children’s and Youth
Worker across whole the whole region. Scripture is taught in 72 classes in 6 Primary Schools, the
majority of teachers coming from our Parish.
HOSPITAL/NURSING HOME – Clergy and volunteers from the Parish visit local retirement
villages, and Nursing Homes and lead monthly services. Regular Hospital visiting to parishioners
in hospitals is undertaken mostly by the Pastoral Assistant and some trained hospital visitors.
WEDDINGS - during 2009 - 12, (often taken by Pastoral Assistant)
FUNERALS - during 2009 - 19
BAPTISMS – during 2009 - 16
REGULAR WEEKDAY SERVICES – Wednesdays, 9am at St. Paul’s church
EASTER & CHRISTMAS SERVICES AND OUTREACH: Extra Easter Services are held
according to need, including 1 Maundy Thursday Service, and Good Friday Services at each
Centre.
Carol services are held at each centre before Christmas and take a variety of forms. At times the
Parish has had an outdoor event, on Kincumba Mountain or in St. Paul’s church grounds, with an
attempt to involve the community. Assistance at this service has come over the last 3 years from
student mission teams – an EU team from Sydney University, and students of Sydney Missionary
and Bible College. Advertising of Christmas services appears in local newspapers, and in some
areas advertising in shop windows, information is distributed to rental accommodation through
Real Estate Agents, letter box drops and on the large Notice Board in the grounds of St. Paul’s
Church (which is clearly visible from Avoca Drive). A second Holy Communion services is held at
St. David’s on Christmas morning to accommodate visitors to the area.
Christmas Eve Services are held at 6pm and 11pm in Kincumber and at 6pm at St. Bede’s
OUTSIDE USE OF PARISH FACILITIES – A Counselling Course (St. Mark’s Theological Centre,
Canberra) is held in the Ministry Centre and St. Paul’s House through the year. An occasional
Weight Loss Challenge Group meets at St. David’s.
STRATEGIC DIRECTIONS
During 2010 the Anglican Diocese of Newcastle initiated a Document as a guide towards a Parish
Mission Action Plan. Utilising that terminology the Parish of Kincumber has listed the following
current activities and future strategic developments.
CURRENT ACTIVITIES
Present
Responsibility of -
ENERGISING (Affirming and renewing existing ministries)
Pastoral Partners
Selected individuals have been trained and are each
allocated several members of a congregation, to
watch out for /provide pastoral support
Led by the Pastoral
Care Advisory
Group with Rector
& Pastoral
Assistant’s
oversight
Pastoral Care
Advisory Group
(PCAG)
Administer Pastoral Partners program (PPP) and
provide pastoral education for the Parish
Home groups
(approx 30 groups)
Small groups, Bible studies, with discussion and
prayer time. Provide real support and
encouragement.
Mostly led by lay
people. It is
intended that there
will be a lay leader
for this ministry
under the MCiM
program
Mothers and Others
Study/discussion for mothers
Wife of Assistant
Minister
Prayer Groups
Weekly, Monday, 8.30am at St. David’s; weekly,
Tuesday 9am at the Ministry Centre; monthly
Saturday morning at St. Bede’s; at most small groups.
Groups pray for congregational members, the Parish,
our leaders, Mission both local and of Mission
societies.
Lay leader being
discerned under
MCiM. Presently
informal
leadership.
Personal evangelism
training
Occasional – once during 2010
Assistant Minister
Fellowship Groups
At St. Bede’s and St. David’s – to support work of
centres and for fellowship
Leaders elected
annually at local
AGMs or Ministry
Committees
Women’s Guild
At Ministry Centre, for fellowship and to support work
of Ministry Centre
Elected Committee
Music & Singing
Groups
At Ministry Centre, St. David’s, Se@k – take part in
regular services
Appointed people
ENGAGING (Reconnecting people with the church so that they can deepen their faith and
discipleship)
Back to Church
Sunday etc
Held for the last 2 years. Involvement in Jesus All
About Life initiative
Assistant Minister
SRE
In all local primary Schools (6).
Coordinated by
Children’s and
Youth Worker
Women’s Ministry
3 – 4 events yearly. Outreach and teaching.
Women’s Ministry
Committee under
leadership of
appointed person
Men’s Ministry
Event approx bi monthly – breakfast or supper with
speaker. Outreach and fellowship. Occasional
events include women
Men’s Ministry
leaders
Kid’s Club, Empire
Bay
After School club – primary age. Attendance 10 - 15
Sandra Carey
Marriage Preparation
Seminars, led by Nicky and Chris Locke
Rector
Baptism Preparation
Presentation night on meaning of baptism, Interview.
Assistant Minister
Remembrance
Service
Annual service of remembrance for those who have
experienced or are experiencing grief
PCAG under
Rector
Retirement Villages services
Monthly at Brentwood, Broadwater Court and Alloura.
Taken as rostered with other local pastors.
Pastoral Assistant
Visiting to Nursing
Home & Dementia
unit
By a selected group. Includes singing in Dementia
Unit
Play Group
Weekly
Assistant Minister’s
wife
Craft Groups
St. Bede’s – scrapbooking and craft
St. David’s – 3C’s, 4 sessions x 4/ year
Ministry Centre – craft group, each Wednesday
St. David’s weekly – friendship, craft..
Relevant Ministry
Committee
Friday Friendship
Knitting Group
St. Bede’s weekly, produce blankets and babies
knitwear
St. David’s Ministry
Committee
Scrapbooking
St. Bede’s fortnightly
Alpha Course
One during 2010
Assistant Minister
responsible for
Ministry to Older
Adults
Ministering
Communities in
Mission
Underway – up to Discernment phase. Will not be
finally appointed until new Rector in office.
Rector
Mission
Regular Mission activities, weekly prayer points in
Parish Bulletin, 3 official Link Missionaries but interest
in many organizations.
Mission Secretary
(elected at AGM),
under the Rector
and with Mission
Committee
Local Services for
Veterans
Anzac Day, Remembrance Day etc
Rector (with
assistance of
retired clergy)
Teen Youth
Fridays. Small struggling group
Assistant
Minister/Children’s
& Youth Minister
EMERGING (Creating opportunities for faith and discipleship with people who have never been part
of the Church
Café Church
Occasionally at Se@k
Assistant Minister
with Se@k
leadership group
All age Service
St. Bede’s monthly
Basic Christianity
Course
Friendship lunch
When need arises
At St. Bede’s annually – for “shut ins”
St. Bede’s Ministry
Committee and
local Pastor
House to house
visiting
In Brentwood Village
Minister to Older
Age Group
When need arises
Children’s Worker
Se@k weekly
Honorary Pastor
under Rector
EQUIPPING(Providing
quality education and
formation pathways)
SRE training
Safe Children
training
47 trained
Children’s Worker
Pastoral Partners
training
2 Equipping Seminars over last 3 years as well as
bi monthly education on topics related to pastoral
care
PCAG
Home Groups
See above
Rector
Small group
Leadership training
needed
Bishop’s
Certificate/Diploma
2 taking courses. Many involved as teachers
ENABLING (Ensuring
that we make the best
use of our financial,
physical and people
resources)
Parish Office
Administrative Assistant. Support for each
congregation
Rector
Local Ministry
Committees (St.
Bede’s, St. David’s,
Ministry Centre 8am,
Se@k) &
Coordinator’s Group
(10am, Ministry
Centre)
Elected by local AGM and/ or appointed. Ensure
smooth running of services, planning of activities,
supervision, pastoral oversight of congregation,
maintenance of buildings
Local Pastor &
Rector
Fellowships – St.
David’s & St. Bede’s
Encouragement, fellowship, fundraising to support
local ministry and maintenance
Ministry
Committee/Rector
Mission giving
Regular support for ABM, BCA, CMS, Samaritans,
(see Finances for total for YTD)
Rector, Parish
Council and
Mission Secretary
St. Paul’s Heritage
Building
Friends of St. Paul’s (approx 10) committed to
fundraising, care, maintenance
Rector
Stewardship
Ongoing education, encouragement through Bible
teaching (sermons) and information. Budget and
regular review of priorities.
Rector & Treasurer
EMPOWERING
(Expressing
compassion and care
through ministries,
justice and service)
Samaritans
Emergency Centre
Collections of food from each centre for Samaritans
Emergency Relief Centre, some staffing of Wyoming
Emergency Relief
Hospital visiting
As required by Pastoral Assistant and others
Pastoral Assistant
Ministry to Seniors
New ministry based at St. David’s – providing
Seminars on topical issues related to ageing.
(Seminar 2010 – Legal & Spiritual aspects of Ageing)
Friendship lunch at St. Bede’s annually for shut ins
P/T minister, St.
David’s with
special
responsibility for
this ministry
Ministry to Youth
Weekly Friday evening meetings. Small group.
CONTINUING CHALLENGES
Staffing of multi centres
Dependence on retired clergy to lead services
Integration of whole Parish and sense of unity
Maintenance of multi centres
Growing congregation at Ministry Centre, accommodation issues
Engagement with community
Involvement in Social Justice
Economic downturn, number of retirees in congregations, levels of income
Families who are time poor, with pressure of conflicting commitments, work, children and
leisure
Buildings ageing and expensive to maintain, parking areas inadequate.
FINANCES
1. AGM- audited accounts attached
2. Parish is able to meet full time stipendiary and Diocesan contribution expenses.
3. Permanent and Temporary Trusts : Empire Bay/Bensville Trust ($600,000) is restricted to
buildings for church purposes in the southern area of the Parish
4. No debts
5. Parish buildings and state of repair….. annual property reports
6. Maintenance Program. Anticipated financial commitment over next 3 years…
7. Parish Buildings rented by weekly Counselling Course (St. Mark’s Theological College,
ACT) and Weight Loss Challenge occasionally.
8. Contribution to Diocesan Ministries – 2010 - $23,000 from collection of $265,000 but a new
formula is being calculated, and we will be able to meet this.
PARISH DEMOGRAPHICS
Population within Parish boundaries – 31,633
Numbers on Parish Roll 2010 – 398
Some of the following figures are estimates
MIN
CENTRE
8AM
MIN
CENTRE
10AM
ST.BEDE’S
8.30AM
ST.
DAVID’S
SE@K
5.30PM
ST.
PAUL’S
WED
9AM
ATTENDANCE during
2009
TOTAL
10,189,
AVERAGE
ATTENDANCE 2010
(excluding Christmas
and Easter)
45
78
44
62.8
Attendance Easter &
Christmas
390 (8am
and
10am)
271
Kincumber
8 and 10
103
(Easter)
130
132
55
Adults
30
children
22
200
39 (C’mas)
Acts of Holy
Communion(excluding
Christmas and Easter)
2134
9389
Baptisms
-
16
children
Weddings
1
12
Funerals
2
19
Children admitted to
HC
6
Confirmation
4
children
1 adult
Average numbers of
children during year
<1
3
2-6
<1
40
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MINUTES OF THE KINCUMBER ANGLICAN PARISH CONSULTATION
between Parishioners and The Ven Stephen Pullin held at ST PAUL’S
MININSTRY CENTRE on SATURDAY 22nd January 2011 at 10am
PRESENT: The Ven. Stephen Pullin (Chair)
KINCUMBER
Bruce Webster
Joyce Webster
Marie Norman
Sandy Rintoul
Sue Rintoul
Margaret Payne
Jean Porter
Stewart Jones
Jill Jones
Wendy Hill
Michael
Doug Harris
Lillian Bennetts
Edna Ryan
Lerryn Mutton
Mavis Mutton
Barbara Pook
Dasha Brandt
Dennis Williams
Charlie Hankin
Beverley Hankin
Les Brady
Lorraine Brady
Terryl McInnes
Lesley Thompson
Stuart Todd
Christine Todd
Irene Voysey
Anita Truscott
Ray Truscott
Janet Wellington
Gwen Lothian
Jean Wright
Joy Oliver
Arthur Adeney
Peter Hoare
Margaret Hall
Peter Phipps
Margaret Phipps
Ian Ogden
Judy Ogden
Frank Van Der Korput
Jenifer Van Der
Korput
Graham Donald
Pat Calder
Geoff Spring
Sue Spring
= 46
AVOCA
SARATOGA
SE@K
Jane Kemmis
Helen Payne
Denis Weiss
Joan Harvey
Ralph Chesson
Joy Chesson
Patricia Golsby
Smith
Ruth Gill
Helen Fraser
Bruce Fraser
Charles Bunting
Edith Bunting
Sara Powter
= 13
Neville Clark
Janice Clark
Rev’d Ken Yapp
Gay Yapp
Leslie Scotchmer
Carol Lewis
Luise Bellchambers
(+ Se@k)
Aaron Zodins
Irene Voysey (+
Kin.)
Sharon McKay
Narelle
Christoforou
Robyn Small
Elizabeth Fraser
(+Kin)
Nina Berry
Nena Goldman
John Christoforou
=8
= 7
APOLOGIES: Sandra Carey (Kin. Se@k, St Bede's), Barry and Barbara Sommers (St Bede’s)
The meeting opened in prayer.
The purpose of this Consultation is to look at the directions/wishes of the Parish for the future
which will lead to the appointment of a new Rector.
Overheads were displayed by Stephen Pullin looking at congregational styles which showed the life
cycle of churches from birth through to potential death.
He spoke about sowing seeds of change, that there is a definite life cycle and that we live for those
who are not living yet.
In the life cycle after growth there is a period of stability and that is where Kincumber is at the
moment. There is predictability and nostalgia at this stage. There is a need for redefinition which
will lead to a new life cycle. If this does not occur there will be a period of decline potentially
leading to death of the congregation.
Parishioners were asked to divide into mixed centre and congregational groups to discuss the
following question for the whole Parish:
WHO ARE WE?
WHAT ARE WE HERE FOR?
WHO IS OUR NEIGHBOUR?
SECTION 1 REPLIES from 10 mixed groups
Who are we?
Multicenter multiservice Parish.
Diverse group of people (churchmanship)
Each centre has different characteristics, needs.
With one purpose – to worship – to love and serve God
What are we here for?
To encourage and support one another and to reach out to the community
To show God’s love and salvation to the community.
Who is our neighbour?
The Community
Those with whom we have connection both individually and corporately
Group : Sharon (Se@k music) Sue & Doug (10am), Lerryn and Mavis (8 am),
Helen, Edith & Charles (Avoca)
Who are we?
1. SEEKERS
2. MEMBERS OF THE BODY – one head, many parts.
What are we here for?
Meet to worship, fellowship, teaching, encourage.
Fellowship – growth, love comfort
Discipleship
Service
Mission – everyday life -- global
Who is our neighbour?
Community, nation
GROUP 1
GROUP 2
Group scribe: Jane Kemmis
GROUP 3
Who are we?
We are diverse, large multi-centre, evangelical Anglican Parish.
Working together – getting support from other members.
Diversity includes range of worship styles but unity in Christ
Largely ageing congregation
Anglo culture
Distinctly Anglican
What are we here for?
Declare Christ (be light and salt)
Live out Christ in the community
Love and encourage, build up one another
What we do is to the highest possible standard of excellence
Competence
Meet people where they are
Teach well – feed people (show forth the Lord’s death till he comes)
Who is our neighbour? Everyone
Young families - Beach culture - Commuters
Retired / retirement complexes / ½ way houses – Schools - Nursing homes
Low income families/public housing / (people who come to us and those who don’t)
Who are we?
GROUP 4
We are Christ’s body on earth
We are diverse – 6 congregations (incl. Wed service at St Paul’s) – all different
What are we here for?
To give God glory and to worship him
To build growth in a number of areas (mentally and spiritually)
To seek God, know and learn more about Him and to have a relationship with Him.
To share this with others in the community
To live in a way that pleases Him.
Who is our neighbour? (Luke 10 v 25-37) Good Samaritan –Jesus said go and do likewise
Love God / Love your Neighbour
Someone who needs mercy, help, time, friendship, us to listen.
Someone who needs our help and love and to know God’s love, through us.
Group scribe: Janet Wellington
GROUP 5
Who are we?
God’s people – part of the Parish of Kincumber who spread the Gospel – develop our faith
Generous to overseas mission
Generous to each other
Group grieving over our separation
What are we here for?
Worship – building up our Christian community and taking the Gospel into local community
Folding people into small groups
Who is our neighbour?
Fellow parishioners / Community groups / Retirement villages / Schools
Group scribe: Geoff Spring
GROUP 6
Who are we?
Loving and caring group
People actually wait and listen
Anglican – happy to say we go to church
Value diversity of churchmanship particularly at 8.00 am service and recognition of a more
Catholic view of worship which is acceptable
We include a number of sea changers who are welcomed (perhaps at a superficial level i.e. not a
lot of home hospitality) - Differs for each individual.
Grieving over separation
What are we here for?
To reach out e.g. retirement villages
Know Christ and make him known / Worship God
Retain what we have received from the past
Who is our neighbour? Parable of Good Samaritan
Group scribe: Anita Truscott
Who are we?
GROUP 7
People who love the Lord
What are we here for?
To attract other believers
To worship and learn about God
Encourage each other
Who is our neighbour?
The community around us / Our neighbours see us by our actions and how we behave
Who are we?
GROUP 8
Caring congregation
Rag-tag collection who subscribe to 39 articles therefore distinguishes us from others
Identifying factor – i.e. Anglicans – conscious and unconscious
Bible as authority / teaching/ time for worshipping God in song and word
Mission focused – not inward looking
Diversity / caters for wide range of worship – traditional and conservative
Belonging
What are we here for?
Loving, growing, serving
Be salt and light
To serve/love one another so that the world may see that we are Jesus’ disciples
Who is our neighbour?
The one who has need of us
Group scribe: Wendy Hill
GROUP 9
Who are we?
Diverse Parish
The face of the Anglican Church in the community
We are a loving group /community of worshipping Christians reaching out into the Community
Community working together e.g. Women’s & Men’s ministry, breakfasts etc
Group who love God and are trying to serve Him
Part of a Christian family seeking to care for each other
People concerned to share God’s love – gospel
People who seek to grow in knowledge of God in Bible / studies and prayer groups and socially
What are we here for?
To be a witness to those outside the church
To teach, nurture and encourage – to learn and grow under God’s word, a place where God’s
word is faithfully taught and where people are committed to hear and respond to it.
As individuals have to grow in personal enrichment and by meeting together to encourage each
other – become Fishers of Men
Who is our neighbour?
Our greatest challenge is reaching out to community
Need to identify what areas of community we can reach
Limitations with age barriers
People who come to us and those who don’t.
Group scribe: Dasha Brandt
Who are we?
People who are of Anglican faith
Caring community with Bible as a basis / Bible teaching place
Mission minded
Worship with song
Parish caters for variety of needs in worship – traditional through to children
Fellowship gives a feeling of love and belonging
What are we here for?
Outreach – focus on mission
Being salt and light
Group of loving people who attract others to us.
Who is our neighbour?
Schools, retirement villages, Nautical Village, neighbours
GROUP 10
After these groups gave their presentation Archdeacon Stephen Pullin described two illusions that
might happen:
That growth can occur without change
That change can occur without conflict
Change will lead to
...
Incompetency / insecurity
...
Confusion / distress
...
Conflict
...
Loss
...
Opportunity for evaluation and adaption / what to keep
...
No more than two changes at a time
...
Be patient in the midst of change
...
Learning / muddling is good
...
Talking
=
take one step at a time that leads to success.
Parishioners were then grouped by congregations to discuss Important Steps and Opportunities
for the next 5 years.
SECTION 2
REPLIES from each congregation 7 GROUPS
St Bede’s Saratoga 8.30 am
Important Steps and Opportunities for the next 5 years.
Have younger leadership
Change style of music – more contemporary
Have more family services, fewer Communion services
Train congregation in skills to be able to approach younger members of community and adapt
our service to be appropriate to them.
All the above is hindered by our facilities – lack of space etc.
Saratoga/Kincumber Parish cannot afford to employ a young minister to develop the above
St David’s Avoca
IMPORTANT NEXT STEPS /OPPORTUNITIES
Outreach to Retirees
Ministry to children “messy church’? P & C Meetings? Young adults – mature presence – ask
for Se@k help.
Consolidate prayer and study groups
Decide what’s possible for us.
Long term – autonomous parish
Outreach to local community
Encourage new people to be involved
Encourage church members to work as part of community around Avoca
Church outings for non-members
Mid week (Wednesday HC)
Let parish know of alternate communion fellowship
Kincumber 8.00 am
Important Steps and Opportunities for the next 5 years.
Where does our congregation go from here?
Prepared to acknowledge the need for change – mostly older
This service fills the need for us spiritually with traditional service
Whole parish services to be presented more regularly
Social events to bring all congregations together – either here or in the other centres
Is it a pipedream that we are looking towards one centre – demographically or geographically?
We acknowledge too much duplication across the centre.
Question of a Joint 8am and 10am service say quarterly
Kincumber 8.00 am
What is valued
Traditional service – Anglican
Committed Eucharist
Ritual
Reverence – quietness
Advertised as traditional
Music
Fellowship
Care and support
Believing – purpose
Revered way of conducting of Peace
Service – faith and love
Meditative service
Family
Improve –
Modern music – additional
Relatively happy
5.30 pm Se@k at Community Centre
WHAT’S THE NEXT STEP FOR SE@K
Implementing the defined needs/challenges
New vision for children’s ministry
Consolidation in Se@k e.g. small groups
Identify people’s gifts
Training of people
Take a step-up towards maturation
Service – taking a step up and giving back
Forming into small groups and caring, concerned relationships
More prayer together
Getting to know people more
15 minute sermons
Evangelism – to be taught now to decipher people individually
Mentoring
Equipping and training of mentors
OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES FOR THE FUTURE
Increase social get togethers
Children’s ministry
Preparing for Nena’s leaving
Children’s & Youth Minister
Priority – find the money
Safe owned space
BIGGEST PRIORITY
USE THE MONEY SET FOR DEVELOPMENT TO BUILD/DEVELOP. IT’S THERE,
USE IT!!!
10.00 am Kincumber Congregation – Wendy Hill
OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES as a CONGREGATION and the NEXT STEPS
and HOW MIGHT WE REACH OUT
We might have to recognise a need to make change and accepting what will happen.
Coping with this interim time while waiting for a new rector
Patience / tolerance / caring during this time
Caring for those making decisions and nominators – needs to be spelt out how to do that. Need
for some sort of feedback.
Be welcoming to new ministers
Being patient in our differences
Recognise need for change to grow
How to be kind to one another in this time – don’t boss
Care for individual needs of people – NOT TOO overtaken by what we think must happen.
Mindful of people’s grief, fears, anxiety
Treasure most – faithful tending of God’s word (incl. Bible Study Groups) - priority needs to see
that expanded from our congregation – including evangelism.
Not everything will change
Encouragement to maintain and develop small groups
Need to encourage.
Group scribe: Sandy Rintoul for 10.00 Kincumber Congregation
OPPORTUNITIES and PRIORITIES for next 5 years.
“Where are we going’
Become more user friendly
Maintain Bible centred teaching
Prepare ourselves for possible integration of the Parish into a single centre
(Dinners for 8 to illustrate enhanced hospitality)
Encourage young families with small toddlers instead of merely tolerating them and look after
them better.
Recruit new musicians
Choose singable songs with sound theology.
Priority 10.00 am Ministry Centre
More involvement by members of congregation – including prayer with individuals after service
– raises the bar with welcoming and hospitality.
Following each congregational group reading their notes Bruce Webster (past Treasurer) outlined
the financial challenges he personally saw and some options for the future.
Stephen Pullin agreed that there would definitely be financial challenges facing the parish.
He envisaged that the new Rector for the parish would need to be able to :
Lead a diverse community
Be a collaborative leader /team player and encourager
A prayerful person / able to listen to people
The results of this Consultation will be presented to Parish Council to be made available to the
Parish Nominators and forwarded to Stephen Pullin.
The Meeting concluded at 12.30 pm