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The following
available inthe
is an
outline
of the
information presently
Bureau relative to the organii tion
shove
named under
committee
leadership
the Eliogyézss,
ofof the Director,
Safety
Cleveland, Ohio.
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The formation
of thisorganization first
came the
to
the Cleveland Office on 0ctober 28, 1939, when
Lieutenant R${
4. eskin, United
States hydrographic
Qffice,
attention 0?
Cleveland, who is
a
the Bureau
local representative
office and
was being
set up.
advised that
the
At that
of 0. N. 1.,
celled at
Industrial Safety
time Lieutenant
Committee
heskin stated
that
approximately 327
industrial plants in clevelandhad
promised
cooperation to
the bafety
reported to
to conduct
Committee, the
purpose of
be the establishment of sunified
investigations relative
other individuals
;
which was
investigative force
to suspicious
.
employees and
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believed to be engagedin sabotage or espionage
u
activities.
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According to
information furnished
by Lieutenant
Baskin
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and by Eliot Ness, the plans for the formation of the afety Committee
origiated a
few days prior to October 27, 1939, at
which
time
.
Hsskin and Hess hsd discussed the organization of such a committee.
No information
is available
as
to
which of
these individuals
initiated
Both heskinand Ness,However, have
stated their approval of the plan,
and Nesshas
pointed
plants in
out his responsibility in
the city
Safety Director
of Cleveland
of that
Arising from
as
a
part of
the
r
protecting industrial
his official
duties as
city.
the discussions
between Haskin
meeting was called by Nese for Vctober 27, l939, in
and Ness
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the Empire Room
of the Hotel Clevelend, for the purpose of formulating plans for
the organization
of the Industrial Uonnuttee.
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tn at%endthis meeting.the ranking officials cfa
industrial
this paint
r. eas
firmm
having
contracts with
it is
painted ant
that Lieutenant
the names of the
induatriax concerns
Claveland having
ticn is
enntratt with
suppusadly highly
At this
number cflarge
ihe Navy Fepartment. At
tb §avy
haakin £urnisaed
in the
city of
to
Bepartment, which
infoxmaw
confi ential
maeting an
Gperating GQmit$ea
censisting of
C mpany, r.
a Mr. Hopkins, ar.
hite of
tha Republic
ia supposed
to-fun tion in.ce0rdinating
was selecte
Grieve of
the Pneumatic Tani
¢teel ompany,
Mr. Urawrord
of tha Th&m§s0n.?r ubts_$0mpany, and a few Qthers. This
the activities
ccmmittae
of the
hafety
Committee.
According to
Lieutenant Hashim
the present
plan proviéea
concern which joina the
Induatrial afety
Gummittee shall
that each
pay to the committee twaniy-five mania
months that
prutecticn is
each cancern will pay
by it.
affnrded to
one dallar
The dues are ta
the leveland
be expended only with
as adviser
tn the
In othér
wQrdS,
per yéar for each person ampleyed
ha paid
Safety Cauncil,
per emgloyee for each three
qhat enncern.
to the
Mr@ Geri
+ecretaxy and
Smith. Q11
tne appruval at r
Industrial Safety
Hr» Th m b ui 9l0t ay
treasurer of
m nies are
£0
Eliet Neas who is aczing
Cummittee.
who baaprevicusly been employed
in the office cf
Mr. Hess as aspacial
in estigatnr
has re igne
that pasition
and has been sppeinte the chief investigator fur
Industrial Safety
Committee.
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On ovemberll, 1939, Mr» eas and.$r. 8Lothay called at
the Eleveland Bureau Uffica and discussed their plans with sp6¢iE1
Agent in
Charge Guinane.
arrangements set
They made
no
out above.
mention of
They advissd
the financiax
$33; ggg
plant
is to furnish a list or
its em§lv¥ees to r. CLQthay whawith the
B Vi¢B*Df r. mess will select two or more emplqyeas at sash ylant
to eat as unéercaver agents and will repert
direetly ts
r. Ciathey.
when reports are raceivad by Mr@Glothey indicating
p0SSib1¬ e pi ag
ar s&b0t&ge it is
intende that
the information will be raferred to
Mr. Rnbert
, »/9
W. Cnamberlin
*Vmv LThe
who is £r. Essa
inve t
*Vtion
assistant in
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basis of
tha Cl&veLand
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is
pointed
Industrial Safety
out that
with respect
Committee, it
approximately 1200 plants in
the
l8, l9;9
to the financial
is
estimated
P
setup
there are
Cleveland area which are potentinl
members of the committee,
which plants
employ at
least l50,000
0n the basis of
these conservative
figures the
committee would
men.
receive $150,000
a year.
Inasmuch as it is
intended that
the actual
investigations be
conducted by members
of
the Cleveland Police
Department, it
appears that
the only expense to be incurred
by
the committee
is
the
salary
of
Mr. Clothey,
certain clerical
and
administrative expenses,
and perhaps
a small
payment to
the undercover employees
at each plant. It
would appear,
therefore, that
the industrial
concerns in
the Cleveland
ares are
to be assessed
$150,000 a year merely to provide
an agency to which information will
be reported and then referred by
that
agency to the Cleveland
Police
~Department
which
is
already being
The plans
for
the organization
Safety Committee are still
already beginning
maintained at
and operation
in.s preliminary
according to
public expense.
the most
of the
recent information
from the Bureau office in Cleveland.
Industrial
stage but operations are
received
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The objections
to the operation of
this Industrial
safety
Committee are perhaps obvious but it
is pointed
out that
in
the
first
place they
are in
tion issued
direct contradiction
on September 6,
l939,
to the
Presidential Pr0clume~
which
requested
all police
Organizations to refer
matters
relating to espionage andSabotage
directly to this Bureau. Any individual iDVeStig&tiOnS conducted
by
this
committee or any similar organization will naturally present
the hazardof interfering with espionageand sabotageinvestigations
being conducted oy
this
Bureau on a nationwide scale. It
to imagine a situation where
the
is not difficult
Industrial Safety Committee through
the
Cleveland Police Department mightconduct an investigation at an
industrial plant
in
Cleveland which would seriously interfere with
widespread investigation
in undue publicity, It
being conducted by
the
a
Bureau and would result
is also pointed out that the only actual function
of the Industrial Comittee, as such, is to receive endcorrelate reports
as to
sabotage
and 8SpiOn&g8. This is
Federal Bureau of Investigation
cost to
the
industrial plants,
strictly the
and is handled by
the
function of
the
Bureau without
whereas the Industrial Safety
Committee
_is charging these plants a large amount of money for the Sameservice,
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Attention is
November
also directed
to the
18. 1-939
activities of
Lieutenant
J. R.
Haskin in
connection
with
the
Industrial Safety
Committee.
Lieutenant Haskin
was actively
interested in
the formation
of the
committee and
there issome
doubt as
to whether
he did
not actually
conceive the
idea for
the committee
Mr. Ness aconfidential
list of
himself. He
has furnished
industrial plants
to
in ¬leveland
having contracts
with the
Navy Department
and has also expressed
his opinion
that the
Arm and
Navy inspectors
in local
plants
manufacturing materials
for the
national defense
have expressed
their willingness
Safety Committee.
It is,
determine what
to cooperate
of course,
effect, if
with the
impossible at
any, the
program
of
the Industrial
pH
the present
operations of
reached with
the Navy
Department
time to
the Industrial
Safety Committee will have upon the plant protection
the Bureau. It is believed, however, that adefinite
should be
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so that
Program of
understanding
there can
be no
erroneous impression
formed on the pert
of
the management of
industrial plants
in Cleveland
through Lieutenant
Haskin. In
view
of his
contacts with
the operating
officials of
these industrial
plants there
is a possibility that
his connection
with the
Industrial
Safety Committee
that committee
might be
and in
order
construed as
that there
an official
endorsement of
be no interference
with
the
Bureau's program,
it is suggested that steps be taken to prevent any
Buvh mi$¢0H¢9Ptlon on the part of
be contacted
the industrial
plants which
will
by Bureau representatives.
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According to press dispatches appearing in the
Cleveland newspapers during the pest weekend, Mr. A. E.
Stevenson, Secretary
of
the CIO Cleveland Industrial
Union
Council, will proceed to
Washingtonduring the current week
for the purpose
of
determining
from you what pert the FBI
is taking in
a
"rumored spy hunt."
According to the press
dispatches,
the Cleveland Industrial
'issued demands that Mayor Burton
of
Cleveland confirm
deny "disturbing
and sinister
reports" that the city
administration
is seeking to prevent wartime sabotage
industry by spying on union officers
further
indicated
Director
of
that
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Union Council has
in
and members.
It
Public
safety
is
Eliot
Ness has cooperated with the Pinkerton Detective
Associated Industries
and the FBI in formulating
sabotage" program, and that Mr. A. E. Stevenson
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Newspaper dispatches further
refer to the fact that Director
of Public
Safety
Nose has held meetings with several industrialists
in Cleveland recently
to outline
a
program
of
the type described heretofore.
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the FBI has not participated
in any manner or degree in the organization
of
the Industrial
Safety Committee in Cleveland.
has formed a Safety
twenty-five
Public
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Committee and has held meetings
in connection with the organization
of
present plan provides
Cleveland metropolitan
this group.
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that each industrial
concern in the
area pay to the Safety Committee
cents per employee each three months.
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The
Committee
will collect theseduesandin return will select
two or more employees at each plant to act as undercover
agents who will report to the Comittee
activities
plant which may indicate
espionage or sabotage.
in
turn
will
refer
this
information
to
the
the
Department.
Bureau.
It
plants
Obviously,
is
estimated
Cleveland
in the Cleveland
plan is most repugnant
that
there
l20O
ares employing at least
,
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Police
this
are
ej :
within the
The Committee
Department
which
will handle
it through
a special
squad
that
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The Bureau has observed that
during the pest several weeksEliot Ness, Director
of
Safety,
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industrial
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Ir all
or these planma enter into the
operations or
this
Committee, the Gommittee*s incuma will he
$l5O, GG a yaar.
It follew
consequently that
Cleveland area will he
maintenance or
refer to
the industrial
concerns in
paying $l5Q,QOG ayear
far tha
an agency whose sale
the Claveiand
being maintained
functian will
Palice Deparmment,
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Iam bringigg this
situation to
antici tion of
the fact
that §r.
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upan yau.
Khave
beratufora instruatad
Charge at
tha
and whenever
laveland Bureau
possible the
participating in
sf the
he tn
which is
expense, lnformaticn
matters which should be reported in
various p&ants tn the FBI.
or endorsing
airaa y
relative to
instance by
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your attentinn
in
Stevensnn will
call
the dp8Gi l_Ag8n$
in
Urfica-to emphasize
fact that
the
wherever
tne~Bure&u-is not
in any"manner
In ustrial §afaty.¢ummittea
the opsrations
of Glaveland.
~Hespec fglly,
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Hnover
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SAC
Listerman
atClevjéand
to'what
timehis appointment
withElliot ess
and inquired
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as
to
which he replied
t at his appointment
wa for 12:15 2.11. I
to
take
a
advised HT. Listerman
that the Director
wants him
strong
stand
with
Hess
along
the
li
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that
he
did
firm
and
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not
with the F.B;I.
deal
that
Council;
to
continue
he dealt
deal
with
in organizing this
leveland%$g[ety1_
with Naval Intelligence
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him
that
must
the
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wantshimto_pointout to himverydecisivelythat his group
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was formed without the knowledge, endorsement, sponsors ip
or any approval of the F.B.I.;
that after
the group was formed
they talked to us about it, but they did not consult us as to
forming
it
or anything of that kind; that if he wanted our
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and support he should have come to usgfirst.
Secondly, that he never asked our views about it at any tine.
Thirdly,
he has
never
turned a thing over to-us,
and if he
says anything about Lieutenant
information, we assumed that
h
askin having given us any
was dealing with us as a
representative
of Naval Intelli
enoe. Fourth, that the
Director
deplores any private
group which does law enforce-
ment upon a paying basis,
Council
in charging
and tM;t the action
one dollar
having investigations
of the Safety
per employee per
conducted by the Police
year and then
Department is
certainly
a
very serious question;
that the Director
feels
that law enforcement should be handled by q ficers
who are
paid for
that purpose.
If
the, leveland
Police
Department
is functioning in that capacity there is no justification
for their collecting money
for that purpose,and if the
Council
is using these funds
to act
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undesirable thing by attenpting to junction as
a
law enforce-
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agency
while
sponsored
by
private
funds.
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advised
yr.
Lioterman
to
tell
Hess
that
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the
Director takes the position that there is
no
need for any
if
private groups to act as interaediariet
between business-or'* **"
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individuals
and the I2B.I;;
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reporting of appropriate material by persons
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I asked Ev. Listerman to imform Ska: further
that
the Bureau can see abaalutely
na need far such an organization
as the laveland Safety Cuunsil, since the Preaidanticl
order
placed juriadietian
in E3pi0nGg¢, Sabataga and related
caa¢a,.
including Plant Protectien,
in the F.B.12
I advised him ta
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take the pnsitian
that Eves canes ta as too late abaut thiaaituatian;
that he formed the arganisation
and than told us»
about it; that we did not endorse it and he did sat ask far
uur endarsement;
that
if
he munte
our
views
or qpinian
he
shauld have asked us first.
He deal
with Lieutenant
Easkin
believing
him to be an accredited
rqpreaentative
qf Rbval
Intelligence,
and canseguently
it is up ta him ta deal with
nal
Intelligence
in any matter that pertains
ta the Federal
Government.
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someone mitk him to the interuiam,
have aameana sit
in at that time.
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me immediately
after
Hess
attitude
is, because
him issue a press release.
Hess will
proha ly
and suggested'thut ha
I requested
that he
the interview
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and let
irector
as knaw what
may desire
$0 have
av. Ltsterman advised that Fess will probably any
that hgfare they made any dqfinite
plane,
they tank the acttar
up with %he Eleuelund Office.
I advised him, hawevar, that
they did not taka it qp with us, but they advised as as ta
what they had done; thai
qpinion
about the nutter,
B?. Guinnne did nut eapresa any
as he waa nut being asked but was
being tald
if
éss makes any statement about furnishing
this data to as confidentially
about the membership, I
advised £%. Ltsternan
to tell
hi: that moat af the Business
men in tnwn know-abaut
this and haw: baan talking
about it;
that if he says we gave out the names qf the members ar
anything of tha
untruth,
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we have never ha
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confidentially
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the peqple
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that
if the
Rhuy Dgpartment is qpprqached abaut this they will deny that
Haakin is a Ravel Intelligence
rgpreaenta ine.
Es is just
a reserve q ficer
attached to
q
hydragrqphic q fice or aoas»,,
thing qf that kind, and no one by the name qf Enakin rqpra_
seats
uval
I teliigence
ant there.
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iaterman
stated
~
that he lecated a cqppaf a letter jvau the ChicagoQ fies :*§@"
ta tbs Bureau indicating
that
anaander
Gregory called
the q$§P**
Chiaago Q fies and wanied to be interviewed by an agcnt,=ff?f%v
av.> 44%aa iny that Lieutenant Enakin conmuniaatedmitb his abumi § *V
this project and he imfnrned Huaktn that he thought it mnn3d_§
be all right but suggested that he go intu it as a pr£nate
v
individual
and net as a rqpreaentatiuc
qf the Rbval Intclligcncc.
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'I advised Hr. Listerman that CommanderGregory
has sent two or three letters
to 0.N.I.
that he apparently was conpletely
people
the
him that
reported
to take
a
very
quarter,
their
stand
in
firm
about this matter;
by the list
letterhead.
I
qr
c
advised
Hashin claims to have
I advised Hr. Listernan
the matter
and to
show no
and to advise me at the completion of the interview.
I stated that another matter about which we are
the statement made by Hashin that we sabotaged
concerned
is
G-2,
find
had
on
organization
fooled
all the information
that
to us was never reported.
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19,
December
and suggested
out just what
that
he contact
statement.
2+.
to Hr. Listerman
he meant by that
him and
Listerman
stated that he questioned Haskin about that this morning,
but Haskin would not say anything further
about it.
Haskin
stated that G-2 withdrew from the Cleveland area,
1',..
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is
the
reason
I
he
went
advised
Hr.
Listerman
to
tell
description qf Lieutenant Haskin.
He stated
to another
and
tell
that
while
I asked
him that
when he made that
to
Washington
up with
talking,
Haskin
Hr.
Listerman
he would like
to
to
and is very difficult
e replied that Haskin
with
statement
the
jumps from
to pin
becau
is
t
request
reporting
at
hi
@r%
'-1::-:3
'-
yr
statements
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,:~¢
one subject
down.
contact
Lieutenant
know what he had
the Navy Department.
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Haskin
is about thirty-eight
years of age, rather
well
built,
wears
a Navy ring so apparently
attended the Kauai Accademy, has
light chestnut
hair,
is very iapetuous and quite emotional.
J; egg
c_y
Lieutenant
that he will report this to the Director
in
lashington
with
the request that the Havy Department be notified
of the statements that he is making.
Iasked
M . Listerman for a
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and that
in.
1.
ARV
in
Haskin
mind
the matter
be taken
JOH N EDGAR HDDVEFI;
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iilxritril
intrm §c;mri
nf
t:xzm t
i as
Eiiustisxr
ngtnrx, E. @.
Deeember l§,
1939
Edi;
Time
11:85
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@,ié+i4LQ1 év
hat
SAG
Listerman
called
frnm
Glsvelani
and
advised
after
he spake
investigatur
and
V
I
said
for
that
to
me this
Safety
he
had
marning
Diractor
taiked
M%.'¬l0they,
Elliott
ta
Hess
N ss,
who
s in
ca1Ie&
New
ham
Fork
attending a safety cauncil meetingand tkat Essa is can»
siderably
cencerned
about
M?. Ho@uer's
alleged
statement
to the Q f
that
the pian was very repugnani
n him.
Hr. Clotheg
stated
that
the imfarma ion
relative
to the
committee
se¬~up,
assessments,
etc.
was discussed
in confidence
with SAC Guinane and new it appears,
acasrding
a
thenewspapers,
thatthe igggrmatian
wasgiven nMr~
Stevenson,
Secre ary
nf th
J leueland
Industrial.Uhian
Gouncil.
Glotheg
stated
an attempt
was made e csntact
yvu in Waahington
gestardag
at which time they were imformed that
yam had been out af
he city
for
two weeks,
As far
the matter
being
treated
caafidentéally,
I told
Mr. Listerman
tha
they have told
euergane
they
appraaehed
about
it and we have heard abaut
it frem num¬r~
ems dg ferent
he has
sources.
checked
Cleveland
have
Mr*
meat with
I tald
and found
that
talked
abmut
Listerman
stated
Mr.
Hess for
this
12:15
Mv. Listerncn
Hr.
Listsrman
half
the
to tell
business
them
in
people
matter.
he has arranged
an appa£nt~
p. m. t0morr@w@
advised jurfher
that Q shart time
called
Kr.
f.
before
thiscallLiautenant
J}H,EHaskin,
U.S.Naval
Int¬lligcHG¬
Haskin
Q ficcr,
had in his
MT. Liaterman
an
pGSS¬S5$QH the
mentioned
this
"m¢
newspaper
morning.
Listermun
clippings
Haskin
imfarmaiion
was turned ever in confidence
to know whether the infarmution
was actually
Stevenson
and
if
not
than
by the FBI to determine
bwias
3&3
he wanted
Stevenson
stated
said
which
ne
Hashim wanted
urned aver ta
~:f;
investigated
why he made such statements
ta the
rms.
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THE
DIRECTOR
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Haskin
Washington.
2-
stated
he would pay for
He further
answer within
12-Z9-39
twelve
said
that
the
'phone
call
unless
he
or twentyqfour
received
hours
to
an
he would
call
Commander Gregory
at Chicago
and then he, Haskin,
would
leave for
Washington
tonight.
Haskin
stated
that Stevenson apparently
got a complete
list
of all
the persons
involved
in this matter
including
the individuals
who
attended
the meetings,
etc.
Haskin
said
that he, Ness and
Guinane
were the only ones who knew about the meetings
and
the identity
of the individuals
who attended
the meetings.
Haskin
could
stated
have
that
the
obtained
told
Mr.
from
us because
only
the
Listerman
possible
source
information
Stevenson
didn't
get
we didn'thave
where Stevenson
was from
the
the
FEI.
I
information
it.
Haskin
stated,
just
before
leaving,
that
if this
matter
was released
by the Bureau that
we are apparently
cutting
the throat
of the Naval Intelligence
by releasing
confidential
information
and, Haskin
stated,
what assurance
does
he
have that
any information
subsequently
turned
over
to the Bureau will
not be similarly
released.
Haskin
went
on to say that
he understands
the military
intelligence
was
sabotaged
by the FBI.
Mr. Listerman
states
he asked Hashim
what he was talking
information.
rather
not
discuss
the military
reason
he,
the
about
Haskin
and inquired
replied
the
matter
intelligence
amember
of
to
the
but
where he got
e fect
that
that
that
was
withdrew
from that
the Naval Intelligence,
such
he
would
the
reason
area and the
was sent
into
area.
I
liar
and
like
to
time
with
talk
to
Mr. Listerman
my hope that
him.
I
told
that
Haskin
is nothing
he comes to Washington
Mr.
Listerman
not
to
but
as I
waste
a
would
any
Haskin.
I
ferenoe
told
it is
told
with
Mr.
Ness
Listerman
to
call
me following
tomorrow.
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called from Cleveland
with r.ference
to s.
oo Safety
into
the
sa .1et! J Elliott-Yeas.
committee
work.
with
Director
Special
Agent
was
also
present
at
the
conference.
The meeting
was oheld
in
a
public ofdining
Mr.
hr.
Listerman
tea that
first
all heroom,
gave and
Hesswith
the
mesHess
was
Thomas
Clothey,
who
was
formerly
his
chie
investisage
a
aisc u3¬d in our calls
and brouaht
to his
attention
the'fourMQ9ints
and collateral
issnE§ E 7én 1, L£Qd§EZELwith
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he
coulH'see
no
necessity
ington
Q;
SAC Listerman
and
who
esiqned
interview
today
now, in view
e
u
Hess expressed
of getting
in
today's
of
Mr. Listerman
conference.
stated
that
Hess
first
the
work
outlined
proposition
in considerable
detail.
Somewhat later,
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Industrial
Safety
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appeared
55.,-125
, 1-;
on the
Scene
and
etplained
o
of the Council.
During
Robert'Chamberlain,
assistant to Elliott
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siderable
night-
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Hr.
felt
and the
success
of the conference,
information
Listerman
about
stated
that
they
-1;-
which we spoke lost
explained
that
the
MJ
L:
that
they
had
discussed
it
with
Mr.
Guinane
and
that
he
would pass the information
along;
that as long as Guinane nade'
no objection
to it they supposed that it not with his approval.
I inquired
whether he pointed
out that they did not ash for
any views;
_
that
about it.
.
came to
,
was before
I
$
part
plan was still
ina
formative
staoe; twlt
they had not devel
oped any information
at the present
time, and that they felt
that they had discussed
the plan with former SAG Guinane at
about the time it was being orhanized.
They admitted,
however,
that they had a meetin
in October and discussed
the plan
before they talked
to Guinane about it,
but said that they
i£IQ;'.q~_ 1éa=ié4
:5.";;
},§,
asking
~
the latter
the
Carl
Council,
Hess, camein asser
edly
t¥
see
Mr.
hess
and
sat
in
on
the
remain
derof
the
conference.
Mr. Listerman
stated
that
he outlined
in con-
M
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a -~-'.
4;;-1
c..1
57¢,
the opinion
touch with
Lash
they told
as what then were doino instcad_o£___ _
He repftea that he pointed thcle facts oat.
mw
Hr. Hesssaiathat originallylieutenaitg ashin -~
him
and discussed
the wrcoidcntial
his
problems.
proclamation,
He stated
that
and thpfyhe
this
told,<'92._.,
Haskin that he did have quite
a
problem
on
plant protection;
sabotage, espionage, etc;, and suggested that they get to-
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eaemmer SQ; 1959
Page
2
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~FP. Lis srmun
bu
iv
U w éil
$3
exnlained
that
t e
Cieuviaad
$59 Q? Qf manwfacturers
,
and i dM8EriulLJL¢
Qf wleq¢land,°whp pay all
the bills.
_Hest ted Lhat u4ncr
* @ Ewv u ivé Swcre ru of
line
of work for Qt number
1
Q; the Gouncil.
?hey than
irialists
what iheg t ought
tn Fess he industr£@lis 8
the Umxncil and 1&0 has bgcn in that
0f years,
$0rkelp with $he,?orma&i@n
' helm a nesting
and askwc
tha
:ndusabou suc&
E
plan}
and ggggpginq
said that they newded some sggh
H636 §!1». %<l'rz:38iO?,1
wzl-ti; j; a.s; §in_,
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ta
new
Pia
1" 91@U@l n§- JW888 went an ta explain
Uleveland
in
uariuus
that
u
déhcr
gram
stra eaic
Ewe final
w uld
e fnPne&,
plan
by steucnsan
mi
Qf
and
b0ut_?
» ~n gram Yeas
which was Q
ngpamred in
awe grossly
airpianea
M
Clothe
-J
to bake charge,
tha jngures
which
ihs importance
p PiS-fa?
was tha
and that
Q
Q fi
that
many vital
mpiemen§s.
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exaq eratcug
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¢.
Ea.
and Ulatheg said
REEQ er &8~ lj¢ ed
tna
y uré
planning
ta
operaée an Q budget sf about ;l3,5@
yer w nrtcr,
which
-.
1- -3 Qppraxzmately
.»
92.
eivh*
cent
a
manth
jar
each wplnyee.
I
m»mwm *"
painted
out t a
ihe only dijykrgncg
Qgiwggn gi§h¢ ¢@n¢$ G
mont
and $w8 $F:?¬Q§MQ§ i$ a quarter
Siund
as jolluws;
about
blawinp
cent.
LT
L
is a di ference
" '
& $$ernan
é fud
bhut
l m ia churw
$h0
Th0$e
zndusirialiafs
miwht
on i a
Q damn-tswn
;C¬3
xglnéned
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his
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$3
blaminp
up
3tun crd ail
tanks J which are all
cl&ng
aha riugr,
and the
hFO§EGt!QH cf the Giiy,
4; anytmang
nQpp¬n;,
_
-lnrinarily.
c llcct
iie
biam0=
r.
Lis ermcn
said f at
ihaae peaple
kiak
t a
their
sustcm will
prevent
many difficulties.
;Wis
iv
%s syn cm:
i ey plan
%@
sail
upon th
§ers0nncl
munm
ar
~'r
92 nr $33
up
Kr.
of ths
of
thcmaeluas
&s used
vaich
Jar
ss¢t¬0n
as
any
indiuiducls
siqn
will
La
sf
vii}
ance
turn
aver
unplui u
c list
sa oéu a
ina rrc ed
ogfécsr
rcfar
the
than
furni
f ose
iiics
to an ini iii
c
lipcncc
a;fi@er
vii}
QSQIQHGFCor C
in
injmrnanis.
rvpwriu
to
ray
uiduals_will he
lQr uc iu£éies.
ta
0? we plan
,aPw~ to TIO"
J
and
ail
snbcém Q, si'
f
W any
cnniand
that
inc *nmuu£r£u;
@aJ¢3§ §n1w @¢v@ is
'
tinn
vj éhe industrialists,
u d $@ut
Q erploy
p£mnt$ are sub-a§¢nts
Qf thés orpmni
"ism,
I
iaquircd
as £0 what
Q; annlayecs
ks §5U,6 Q is
- ~
Such
§"»£*
ani-Cl:
6'1
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On
December
Paoe
-
20,
3
1/ ILL.
19
-
h.;l';QCS
to Clothey,
1
~
all
Qj
that
list
whose inueséicators
to
determine
whether
will
they
inue¢1i_;;¢
- .
would
be reliable
and would turn ouer any information
to the organization,
after
which the necessary number of "stooges"
would be
selected.
He stated
that all of these informants
would
work without
any pay besides their
regular
wages.
Clothey
oroanieation,
oryanization;
three
said
that
no work
months
before
they
yet
him definitely
tigate
been
started.
as any P¬yOFt8 are received
they
over to the F.B.I.
Hr. Listerman
told
has
done
by the
but that they are still
engaged in the work of
that they anticipate
that it will
take about
that
any complaint
I
it
is
not
of espionage
shed Hr.
""
he Said
contemplate
said that
flan
their
that
as soon
turning
them
these people
intention
to
inves-
or sabotage.
whether
stand our G'bti in
U-Tthis,G matter,
these
ty ;ieo@
neaplQ_under-
saIU dItErsoar Ufewsonedegr¬e._Mr. Listermanstated that
he_§oae his stand cleari
jhat
ofjicidI'6onneEtion_Uith
no toIH_them tag} at Laae_no
it.
7
Fr. Listernan
stated
that these people are enqaced
in a prevention
proposition,
but that they corla not say how
they could guarantee
that any such system would prevent
any
aCt8 of espionaae
or
sahotaoe.
He stated
that they feel
that we are cnoaged in the investigation
of these matters,
and that they are primarily
interested
in the prevention
of
any
such
occurrences.
I
that
the
inquired
how they
industrialists
account
for
can be saved
the
50,000
contention
by reportinj
these matters
direct
by the plant
management
to us.
it.
Listerman
said that
their
contention
is that
the plant
manace
ment would never know about these
things.
They think
that
the employees
would not report
these matters
to the plant
manaoement
trying
to
because
of
Jet
around
fr.
Smith
the
storage.
plants
Me said
can protect
saia
wherein
they
that
the
have
that
they
are
difficulty.
that
it night
be disputed,
that
sabotage,
may not be within
for
an ¬$ampl¬ the atanderd
so they
proposition;
anion
this
there
is
a possibility,
although
some of the facts,
particularly
the Federal
jurieoiction,
Qiuin
Oil tanks which are used for
they
city,
their
intend
in
to
include
addition
stooces".
all
such
to protectinc
of
matters
the
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Becember
QC,
;mne
§_
-
Hr.
we
would
Listerman
fcc urar
wauldnot
Qf the pin
t ey
do
oahar
no
than
said
q
inues
asked
ET?
n »
t in
th
4
VJQE
Q
1.7-|_-
Ff;
I
He
us.
asked
r.
d0 thr;
Sta ed
us, will
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3;be
ep
{Q
h
turned
reps
have
tiaaéc
the person
jbr
it; gt
Qf
as
will
ay
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$01
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work
that
we
Qjjicials
him
thnt
sf the plants
in;0rmu%ion.
9f
t
stanges
amt add
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and
that
at
Listerman
Q
1_@§k¬d
Lis
that
heyHr. appare
that.
he
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undertake
the
withundwnbtedly will
the
nrsaniaaéivn
theempl@g@rs.
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such
uted
a plant
is the duty
$01
eas people
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any protect
is rqport
any
than
any
to
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which
thug cbéui
that
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sf I.
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manufacturers
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ms ta uta
Liatarman
Q pr¬as
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tha
release
Pr.
Listermnn
MP. Liaierman
stated
sse
I
on thiS
agreed
that
mm nsceanizw
maiéer,
with
both
ga
Ema arc
this
?I@L,JL
Smith
and Hass were
very pleasant.
He stated
that he pointed
aui ta ihcm cur
various
arguments,
including
ihe fac
ihat
they ars trying
mamrp the powers
of law enforcement
bo ics.
He stated
tka
he also
pointéd
amt ta éhcm
hxt
tha§ Gaamberlazn, the assistant
enlwst
some s udents
aaL0tage
nally
at
that
hese
wouid
Reserve
out
know nothing
fer
trying
they faal
turers
tkzt
that
about
it
and that
there
in
TG
that
is
men
prevent
all
is feeling
an the part
a need fur
such
asked
his reply to that
vent it with theirs.
that,
but
and thera
Aw.
mei
I
irectsr
$6
ohau
of
éhis
he
oraanizat on.
was an inquiry
whether they
They said that they cmnld
prs actin
aguised
the manufu¢~
whether
g our
they felt
that
if they dt
muS some act of sa 0tag§,
ds
af
an organization.
Listsrmun
sabotage
blame far
not %akin§ prayer
believe
in msin
$ aoges
other
H9
men took the posa¢rQn
inat
they do no
wan;
disturb
any harmuny mhm@$O§gQrJ but t at
there
ese
WE could
making
to th§m emphat~V
they Qerg no? duly canx tuted lac gnfsrcemsnt officers.
statea
taut
these
tn an anything
tn
to
infarma ian
yniueraity
he pointed
that
bays
receiu&d
ta Néss, is possibly
estern
inusstigatimns;
he just
,,
,,
moi
t cy
prgcauxmon.
in p wferencé
take some
weuld race
as stuied
to Usin
thsuvht
¥@ stated
¢.'Ti3?,L_l."-;,
not an wer
ac écn,
ueihe
ghg
uards
t gy
or
in.
HT.
Listerman
and
let
I
would
him
know
that
what
ins
aduissd
that
these
nal
is
Qiractar
ne
wants
d .
N?. Listerman
be very jriandly
absut
the whole mutter;
brin
up much about
the publicity.
They
be an need fer
sailing
Washington.
I
asked
Hr.
Liaterman
whether
men aypcured
that
saia
me
was
thay
that
certain
to
did mat
there
wvula
that
he said nothinw
that
they cauld
c0n$tPns
as our
&lsssin@"
or
bsnedictian .
Ne stated
that he was sure he Qid not,
bat
that
they might
mam say that
they have canawlted
with
the
F.E.I.
I SH O¬$t6d that
we wait
>1d sse what their
newt meme
will
be, and in the meantime
I
amid iaik
la t e
irec sr
and obtain
his opinion.
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the President
furaonal
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in-:*!o»'2,
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Irwr
Immoral
lataan:
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I on attaching
hereto a brief
mevarandumnutltntng
the c»ltcn: feature:
in connection with the Industrial
qfczy Com~itceu sf the Tleveland _qfcty
nuncil.
I
have woticci seuaral press utvrias
in ivuéin
that the
Prrsident
at
a recent
press
conference
25:
asked
D
n
con¢¢rn-
E30
thtahorgaztsation
andconaaqusntlp
thnupht
younipht
kc to ave in bdckvrnund.
I cannot asprcna too
viaoroualy
my camplete
disapproval
qf organization:
I
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back;ruuni
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a
uiqilantu
particular
n
ri
ec
v
Lana
nroupa.
situation
P
thur
is
J mvraonary
which causes he to doubt even the sincerity
purpoaa of the organiser:
?
of this group.
cf
The situatian
{n zlcuelandis zut gneof aevcralmunifsstatlans
of the
uewfre of promoters
v0 capitalise
upon s e praaant
emer~
genoy aituuntan to thctr own advantagpMbyGt cnpting to
§curp
n never
¢l th1lfu?ifion:
in
n qf
vara?ora¢¢tc:
oua par a J¬;;c:forcengnt
a t 0 caun ry ug?nci¢a.
pr uate
detective
apenciaa
have
oontaotcd
@r;¢%£:¢:z@n3 in an e fwrt
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involainw
thsir
ea t~nove
and busincaa
acrviscs
far
:uFotcfe
and
E
the
pli t ;F0§uR$i@R:
ftwrcis, of cw;rr§, no
gccakstty
for
bus£n.eazt@
aurie?
it:c1fjinawcialfy
"iththaacrvi
ca
my to prnforn
law anforcsnnnt
wwrk On
QT a one ws cia
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'HPrdu
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f an industrial
institutian
or nrg f d i a
I,feal
nn aairabls
arr¢n;@nen¢a
jnr her
in thta
ts permit
regnr& that
it
tag Qa n if h
ta highly
af any tri~3nr%g
by mhian psrsaue gosseaaing
iafornation
partainfng ta eapianaga, anboiagv;
plant
prntsctian and
rsla e na@%¢ramust pare Ate iafarmatian tarough tn:
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han
n qf c third party in arse? thaé it will rsaoh the
urcau Qf Inusu tgationi
I aiiams that the
n» 11- fbderci
Furaau should inaiea
rwmtact with
all
Q: all
puraana
times upsn nui
in a-pasi iun
aininp
t0_jurn¤h
Hirent
iwfarmc~
tian of this kind; ha ihsac parsnnn nncfmgers r awglnysaa,
tenant the unnaeeseury and un asirabis
kurdsn Qf 0 hrecw
party arrangewen
thrnugh whisk data mua p¢an.
I know
in
will
P<
3 .
you will
appreaiata
that delay,
undanh£rd1y rasult
inmceursay mna inm fieienay
in situaninns
whare the Furcau does
not deal divest with peraana inva pasifi n
npproprtatc~dat6a¢
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Snquiriza nbnu aartvrn nj tats kind and ¢0n:a¢uen:iy
Qanta
gnu ta have my uisws upan rng mzrrcri
' ita
uaaurancci
sf my hicheat
ragarda,
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December
26,
1939
vzvzozeggvvlr
The Industrial
bafety
Committee
of the
Cleveland
Safety
Councilwasorganizedshortly after the outbreakof the eurren
European
land,
Robert
har by Eliot
Ohio, Lieutenant
Chamberlain,
individuals.
Ness,
Director
of Public
Hashim, associated
Assistant
to Eliot
safety
Hess and several
The Safety Committeefhasjdesignated
as a clearing
house for
and subversive
activities.
Committee is to solicit
institutions
in
the
at
Cleve-
with the Navy Department,
other
itself
to serve
information
relating
to espionage,
sabotage
The method of operation
of the
memberships from business and industrial
Cleveland
metropolitan
each member approximately
$1.00
initial
assessment was declared
area
and to
assess
per year per employee.
to be twentyive cents
The
per
quarter
peremployee
butit appeara9thatF?he
assessment
¬urrent
92nis eight cents per month per employee.
Ito s
estimated
that
there are
150,000
employees engaged by concerns to be approached
for membership by the Committee, which means an income of
approximately
$l50,000?OO
a
year for the Industrial
aafety
Committee-
The Committee
will
function
by designating
in the various
plants
spies
who will
report
through
the
plant
managements
to
the Industrial
Safety
Committee
all
matters
that
transpire
in
the plant.
It has been stated
that
the information
obtained
by
the Industrial
Safety
Committee
of Cleveland
through
these
fchannels
will
be investigated
by a specially
selected
detail
of the Cleveland
Police
Department.
On other
occasions
the
promoters
of the Industrial
Safety
Committee
have denied that
they will
conduct
any investigation
directly
or through
the
Cleveland
Police
Department
to the National
Defense.
sidering
the functioning
to become of the
$150,000.00,
Uepartment
referred
investigates
to the FBI.
Pespite
statements
of
information
obtained
relating
The questions
naturally
arise,
conof this
organization,
as to what is
whether
the
of
cases
the
or
the Cleveland
whether
Cleveland
the
Industrial
Police
cases
are
tafety
Committee
promoters
that
they would not conduct
investi
ation
in cases involving
espionage,
sabotage
and related
matters
but
would refer
all
information
received
promptly
to the Cleveland
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oJ;ico of the FBI! informationQuebeen!received
that representatives
of theCommitto¢been/approach%§g
have and a feF*ng~them
la?students
at western
Reserve Law School in Cleveland
positions
as
investigators
for
the Industrial
Representatives
attacks
and criticisms
pafety
of organized
Committee.
labor
have been vigorous
they have made upon the Committee,
in the
its
sponsors and its purposes,
claiming
that the Committee
is
actually
attempting
to install
a system of labor spying within
the industrial
institutions-
The Federal Bureau of Investigation
was not consulted
at any
time concerning
the establishment
of this organisation,
nor were
the views, attitude
or advice of the FEI sought in the situation.
The FBI has not sponsored,
endorsed,
or approved this organization.
The Cleveland Industrial
Lafety Committee has not at any time furnished any information
whatsoever to the FBI concerning matters
relating
to the national
defense, despite the fact that one of
the major
justifications
in soliciting
furnish
all
used by the proponents
memabershipviis
the claim
data received
immediately
the Presidential
request
of beptember
of the
Committee
that
the Committee
w~i11'»-mt
to the FBI in accord
with
6
1939.
The Director
of
the FederalBureauof Investigation/has indicated
through his!»i.
Special Agent in Charge at Cleveland, Ohio, to Eliot
Hess, Cirector
of Public safety,
his opposition
to any undertaking
to penform
duties
of law enforcement
by civilian
groups functioning
in the
capacity
or manner
of
a vigilante
or
group.
In the present
situation
this
the fact
that the promoters
of the
motive because of the potential
per annum and virtually
1
O
negative
civilian
condition
organization
secret
is aggravated
by
have
a
mercenary
budget approximating
expenses.
service
$l50,°O0.00
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pi $2 " y .>
'? = Ulaqplqnm
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sth, l§5H,§,
, Decambs;
The Feaeral Hureau sf Investigation, 5;¥T*W7#
Washington, D,C. V,
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AThe
.
greatest vice
ring in the United
States i§ ¢per@,
*T*'tha
;¬leve1andX¥alica_Foree under
the airection oi Lt. P¬Qer Allanand #1,
Earnesg/Molnar. The
ths girls
g¢~between man whe dees the B llaéting
for these
hnuaes of pnasnitution is
and Purnisheu
Mgx FsrEls wgth off bbsein
"the Ulnar
Pl g. onthe Fublic
Square. Ha
can bé
found ha §§m~
é é nd the
Clarklg offlcsin th Inlice stationon theEnd floatmus§Z§?§ry;@Q%nin
V. ,,
VV
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Yau can ssaily tell
_i_,L _.
which casas are Gaing th& p;§ mffVhg$pittin-
in Lill1an;Wessraop's Court Room.
Max Fsrnle
pear erea ures
fee xith
Allan, wesuroop
the victim
might squeal
and than
fficer.
V If
Allen is
splits his
afraid that
acna as anterney"£or*thosa
and t e
he will
arr@s*
»~~V
mnks it
his business
to frama
that
party and sand him to the panitentinry as
he a
not talk.
Allen has no sonscience and weuld stoop to murder to gas pansy
from the
little individual
who has ta suffer
ta get
it. If
awCm&n does ml
want to
go into
that raaken,
Allen will
hound her until gha
givas in.wud
.
raids her
hnme and put$ an
item in
the paper
so that
she is
as humiliarcm
that she
finally glvaa
in because
there is
nc way out. Then
if she
¬el1s
er aven
threatens to
tell, than
she is
murdered my ALlén 3 g&n@ of Ita1is-
who is living at the Earl Hbtel at E. 32ndac, n Euclid Avn
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formerly worked
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an
older
type an» she can get him to tell
ing and
life. He
of the
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Nash Co, at
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and Euclid
woman who has the
id forced
to handle
her everythin¢
stolen property
lwhen Mayqp'Bubton
took office
as that
thought that
get anywhere
common beat
passed the
on the
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men. There
is one
sargent examination
great iprvone
have the
they were
man to
Qhousand Dollars
might be
might be
where
can gag 3Q gr
the motherlv
Lin he
3: nice
address,
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goin5 to get
handle. The
to pay
a political
He is
looking woman
prospective buyer
want to
Allen
and
the fence
Molnar.
was appointed
Safety Directo
some protection,
police who
and full
but the
cannot
be
promotion. This
j-
bought n6Vc
and they
stay on
the
outside as
drivers
man in
particular who
is too
honest evo
but could
not be
promoted because
he did
for the
o
man would
~
he
n<
lose 1
shot if
they find
out that
he ever
told this
story. Anot
shot ifthey
find out
that he
told ahout
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muroe
on Clifton
Blvd. in
is 9605
Clifton Bldd,
I do
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hotel is
and Elliot Ness
the people
job and
man who
appearance of
find out
tn»t she 1$
going to adopt
him
and Dive him a chance ca Liv; c
Q1;
rea1ly'wou1d liketo get out of that racket
but he is in
it
now,
dope fienda,/ Ofcourse they pay
protection/to
was too
you can
Ave, You
of real
tell who
men's home,
is Harry Hinchlif£e
now
in
Miami, Fla.
but
his wife
can handle
estate in
I am yet ; until
Miami.
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after I
see that
uhos "Air
is still
at
she meets
you we
92
him as'a
t:"§ri.r192_; En
clean
up
Clevilan
and they
cannot
killme. I will watchthe papers
and
sen you
more nformation
to work
on.
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heCleveland
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fnteliigence
Divisian.
e infarmed me tha
at noon time on
b
hlwnday,
eld
at
the dth,
and Tuesday,
Terminal
Club to which
the
iniustrial
aonoerns
in
this
the Vth,
mec ings
were being
PepPB$¬ £GéiU¬$
qf Qutstanding
district
were
being
invited.
e
butuiso
Jr.Elliataz Safety
ess,ire tor,
Uéty
QfUinweiand,
in@i$G$éd
hat
moi
mews uitaliy
that
all
éndi a
of
0'ly
he G5 Head Qf the
£ntere$~ed
in
industry
this
maeting
alam woaid
§e
Cleveland
é a
thé
Sabotage
in
urdsn
the
of
he
Cleveland
I
TC
or
nétcn ad
SS iniividua
inc
sams
number
t a
mast
part
vcncerns.
Q
iha
9 n
at
is
and what
vitally
meeting
ting
as
vital
&e
in e
and
I
h§
knows
them
mhiah
0 the
Prevention
th tn
Fherc
understand
They
knamn
tbetier
he meeting
wpened
rest
be "The
E
on
present
kins
as
he was certain
c@ncerned¢
was to
ers of antheHnnday,
$331 tended
Lt.
Eiuisian,
District.
Tmeaday,
awnditisna
and
t
Inteiiigance
exist
were
abnu
¢Qt aFfr¢$ima c£§
mars
F5Q?¬SF iC¬iU8S,
gar
ou$stand£n§
Qlsveland
by a g ner l
éiscmasion
and
in
Claveland
tha
istrict
proper
s Emmy Department
has in preventing
Diuis
Navy
r other
Qnva rnman
prosecution
cf mark either_for
the
sabotage,
e%@¢ Ne
tans,
growing
out
f espio npn,
the L%uy carries
0 reviewed
he type of £nwnsti§a%or;~m@rkvw £@h
any
interruptinn
t
an
s@ ficient_funds
at all
times
and for
which
in paces
times
with the advent
of re available.
e paih cd
out,
hnweuer,
that
burden of the mark recent
wartime
conditiana,
ha §xteh% and
budget
an m i h th rapidly
assumed such prnpnrtians
fhat
the meager
praqram
He
which
maul
indinatsd
praclamatian
situation
has
ccnsultcd
sq~f orsrate
of
to
t
the
a
wi h
sagwestiona
the
and Lt.
Hashins
concv£ued¢
Lt*
Jess.
the
Essa
opened
as
gnrces
of
J incdc AQ mate
with
Birectar
ta
Haskins
had made ta
sitmatien
his
he
an
ll
snbuers
remarks
sees
Hess.
in the prspasition
it
it
him
sunvari
.1
a A
sresrnté .
the resent
tha
"
."3 :
ave., @CthUlu1¬3
the
'
.4 L¢e
ll
an
ess
that
entiraly
district
-"L ..
exhent
-,5
R0
such
inadequats
disnussinws
n peneralired
Sicueland
.r
ircctsr
felt
was presented
to
the meeti
nuar
by a review
in
at
were
maa frsw
that
the plan which
Faskins
then turned
situatian
H
:
Q
G dpGiH
advised
interested
SS Lt.
to C pa with
entirelv
e rresidant
of the
ni ed States,
ta sail
ne
ttentinn
af icon} nuthnritisa
and he, therefnre,
and
became intensely
is
be Hi all
ndvqnm s
for the nrahlems
therefara,
fel
it his duty nn er
that
the
e
qf
graup
irecécr
terms
eas
was
of
JPr@n the
~_
P" org_'
[1nzspa
whzaa
exist
in the
S i¢§ @f'¬l@veiandjaw the carrying
on cf
mu?%c;;qpg
8 wnrk,
if and when it bccmmas expsdient
far
¬8pi0 GQ8 andisabotag
duck organizatians
to begin funvtioning.
e strcssed
the inadequacy
u; any
avernmental
funds far prnysrlg
inves iga inp
and preu nting
such sabotage
or running
down information
on thos§ grpups
at
indigf_
duals who might
be potential
agents
sf such activities.
e alas
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which
that
waul
Citw
Jnis
he felt
enable
"apartments
$§¢uu§a of
antla,
scrutiny
cme sari
such
work
usually
both the
beoauaa
of the
of arganis tion
to
be
carfied
was rcgxired
on
outsié
the
E
dqffnite
~
inched to to cope wiah snc 3;;
lack sf funds and @130, and mare in,uF?
heir
every
expenditure
¬lcueland
City
Geuncil
and ac ion
és opcn to
which
in such matters
.
{ e
is
mat particularly
sympathetié.
é csnceiped
the idea that,for
carrying
an such work, a special
committee af éhe Cl eueland
Safety
Council would be an appropriate
means.
He feels
hi s is up;r@priste
because the Safety
Council
is vitally
i teP@$tsd
in th
sa5@¢y Qj
isu
life
and prnper y
cf the Ci g.
A130, the sufetg
Gan nail
going
nncern,
thus eliminating
the nscessity far
h 6 rganization
af a new grnup or bady to carry
an ths mark,
e sis 0 feeis
it
wisé $0 utilies
the Jafs
Couneil
as a areasAI in mhi ch in work
H g
because;
s wnld
be ubnndnned
he experiment
readily,
and
n0%_pr0ue
with
In general
th& plan
employees
cf the various
little
satisfactnry,
it
1'
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if -
Gr no puhlicit
can
_
1 92
a5 campaign
individual
mania De ta mgr A tkrsugh
I
is
HFG~
83 GFIi$hment5*
N
*
he impreasian
Mmsed
that
industry
furnish
the
speciai_commi%tes
a; t&e
Jafety
foun ilwithlists ef employees
whoin theepinianf theindustry
H'
Inv ,lued
.
11,V ye i
wanted but
arr , Vtrustworthg",
names wauld
e needed
are s ratepicallg
pick up valuable
or
they
Should
t
bs
loaated
in the plant
cad miph
infnrmatian.
?hese indavinuazs
aa
art
ma
my
Lngivi u ls
who
be in positinn
to
mania he hnrnughlg
i u@§5i§@t@d hp methw s whfah appmren iy
Hess has available
and are
q fec iuw,
and m §ch, we were assured
wmul
in no ya y Hismlosn
anyons
ne gnci
that
such lists
of names were fnrnis
hed by the
emplnger.
irom that paint
on, in"us ryVwnnld
have
n
o further
part
The $p@Cial csmmi
mnuld cansist,
at lsast
sf thé f llawinw:
irector
Akss,
Lt.
Hnskins
sf the fang I&£el7¬§Qnce
iufsion,
Carl
Bond
Smith,
Secretary
Q? $58 Flwueland
Jafetg
Cauncil,
C0 mmander
of the
Ail
Navy fntelii~anc@
Qf t&eir
twin?
centasts
plants
contact
wauld
man would
*+
..i.v
is feit
Reserves,
mi k
their
be held
knpw
hat
who
fur
and ;nssibiy
cantact
en irely
any
q f
Q? the
carrying
ONE or
man in
the
the premise
ather
s
cnntact
on the mark far
Lmo
Qthsrs.
various
indus
J Qn
no GHQ
men
were.
n {'3
e gear
rsquzre
a budQet,0f
§5U,QGO, mr it was cs imated,
the number of emplwyees
in the concerns
thaa gar
waul
of
n H the basis
an F!sidérsd,
ahaut
tke
Cnmmi%t¬8
an
én {F nstry
the
basis
by
ta e
is
in ended
;v
U
if?w
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district
92
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é Z ,
emF.o5-e
0?
that
the
to
and
per »
the
number
con ribution
cauer
nn
, »f; L,
AGR
limit
the
of
work
_92
_
apyaren
empluyees
inward
entire
t e
*rt
,
the
hc
in
:U ~»
Jaw
work
inuustrial
ta
$7
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area
established
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x 8 en Uecids
by
shmhld
zndustrg,
HG
"i
P
vl0UG¢¢nd
Cswpvrniion
4*
e
It
Q? the city.
They are
POPQ3iR§ that
tum plan
as amgiineu
on for a marina of t ree
n h ,
at the and 0j mnich
tire
iqft
to the consensus
sf epinian
as tn.wh0ther
it is wsrth
and there
is any need for
continuing-
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~.
.arrie
he
it
can
while
be
A
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.¬leueland
I
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pa L; an
basis
district
qf the
number of hourly
including
Edgemater,
erployses
hcéary A.
Raw in the
$arks
;huu¢ar'a
Qgpartment,ResearchLaboratory and Vinyliiey £52,,
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Eav , é é eharge for war §0mpG ywould be §lT2.83 per mg ii,
n the basis qf all gmplayees, both huurlg and aalarg, viz; 2&F?
the charge would be $206.42 per manth.
basis
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the feeiing
that
these meetings are industries
the
I am not certain
industries
invited
which
to attsnd
who da work on Navy contracts.
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