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Kristin Walker said
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I thought so too. I agree with your point earlier as well that
perhaps the only reason Clay supported Adams in the first place
was to guarantee a prestigous position for himself. I think it was
very likely that some kind of planning was involved.
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1) Trail of Tears 1838-39
2)"Treaty of New Echota"; a treaty signed and ratified in 1836
that established the terms in which the entire Cherokee Nation
would relocate west into the Indian Territory.
3)http://digital.library.okstate.edu/kappler/Vol2/treaties
/che0439.htm
4) This document would become the US government's entire
legal basis for the forcible Cherokee removal. Prior to the
treaty, Cherokee delegation attempted to lobby Congress for
rights to their ancestral land; however, pressure from Georgian
laws (later heavied by the discovery of gold in the region) and
the inability of the Supreme Court to uphold rulings in favor of
the Cherokees in the state forced Jackson to urge the Cherokees
to relocate, wd begun to draft a few treaties prior. However, a
deafening split occurred within the Cherokee Nation; those
pro-treaty, and those pro-rights. Those who were pro-treaty
would meet in the town of New Echota, Georgia with Jackson's
envoy to right the final treaty, which not only gave the
Cherokee guaranteed land and protection benefits, but even
paid the Nation to leave.
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This is the part I found interesting; after it was officially ratified
by Congress, the small, pro-treaty faction that signed it had
actually already begun to move west to the Indian Territory. In
fact, a "Trail of Tears" would have been avoided had it not been
for that other anti-treaty faction. Lead by Chief John Ross, this
16,000+ group of Cherokees argued that since the treaty was
not signed by the entire Cherokee Nation, it should be nullified.
This would lead to Ross' petition to Congress to nullify the
treaty, but it would be in vain; Andrew Jackson had stepped
down from the presidency to be replaced by Martin Van Buren,
who not only flat out ignored the petition (in an attempt to fill
the ever-so-popular Jackson's shoes), but ordered the army to
forcibly remove the Cherokees who had not complied with
Treaty of New Echota, hence the Trail of Tears.
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Joshua Duray said
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My bad, I meant I was building this off of Nicole T's post,
not Jessica Green's.
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Joshua Duray said
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Ironically, the Treaty of New Echota was drafted by a small
faction of Cherokees along with U.S. representatives for the
terms of a peaceful removal of the Cherokee, and in fact some
Cherokee were or had already left after it was ratified. The
dispute lied mainly in that the Cherokee Nation as a whole did
not sign and ratify it, hence Ross' petition to nullify it. Had
Ross and the 16,000+ Cherokees who signed the petition
simply grumbled a bit and left as well, a Trail of Tears may
have been avoided.
At the same time, however, I do agree the petition, especially in
the fact it was ignored, did unveil the intolerable land hunger
and overabundance of federal government. Not only was the
First Amendment violated (right to petition) with the petition
being ignored by the president of all people, but the federal
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government in forcing the Cherokee out basically asserted, "It's
already ratified so boo-hoo."
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CAMERON LEE said
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1. The Battle of the Alamo 1836
2. An account written by William Barrett Travis about the state
of the Alamo after 24hrs of fighting. He basically states he will
either win the battle or die trying.
3. http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/learning_history/alamo
/preparing1.cfm
4. This document reflects the courage and the determination the
Texans had in the Battle of the Alamo. They pretty much knew
they were going to lose but their nationalistic pride and love of
their land kept them fighting until the end. It was this kind of
determination that helped the Texans finally defeat Santa Ana at
San Jacinto and drive the Mexican army from their beloved
Texas.
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Stephanie Thompson said
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It feel Henry Clays bargain may have been the start of
something that is not that unknown in politics, possibly a slight
tradition. I think that it is possible that a lot of leaders in
positions as high up as speaker of the house, have used their
influences to scew things towards their views. It was probably
only a really big scandle then because the people were still
geting used to the party system. It seems that the Ekection of
1824 really started the tradition of the power game Henry Clay
was playing
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The painting is really good..I find it a little weird how bright
and vivid the picture looks even though the battle itself was so
depressing. I agree with Ashley; it definitely shows the
confidence and courage of the Texans who pretty much knew
there was very little chance they would win the battle.
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Stephanie Thompson said
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in 1824, yes, the bargain was corrupt; now, 2010, probably not.
Now this is probably a common practice in politics. I think it
was such a big deal in 1824 because A. no one had done this
before (someone using their power in such a way) and B.
Everyone wanted Jackson to win so badly that it was a way to
point fingers and make a big fuss over something that was
probably not that big of a deal.
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Stephanie Thompson said
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I think because for a while the race was really close and, really,
if Clay had not done any bargaining, the turnout could have
really been either way, since Adams had such a large following
in the North while Jackso controlled the South. It may also be
making a little bit of fun about the whole race. The comic may
be hinting that the election towards the executive postion is
nearly a race to see who drops out first or who can get the most
people cheering for them. the comic could possibly be just
adding his own opinions on the election
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Stephanie Thompson said
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this is really cool... I was not able to find anything of Clay
actually making a statment on the possible bargaining... I was
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starting to think that everyone just kind of swept it under the
rug. It's kind of funny too, if you think about it. Now a-days,
politicians are having to defend themselves for every little thing
that could be considered scandalous; so Congress is probably
used to hearing these types of speachs all the time, but back
then, in 1824, this was probably a really new concept; someone
having to give a speach to defend themselves against scandal.
Its just kind of interesting and funny to think about.
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Tyler Wilson said
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Well, I agree with you for the most part, but i think that if
that happened today, we probably still would make a big
deal out of it. i think the thing was that it wasn't (and isn't)
just some little political scandal, but it was deciding the
future of the nation for four years. Today, if it went to the
House and there was another corrupt bargain, i think a lot
of people would still get angry because no one likes to be
cheated. The difference between the two is that in 1824,
people expected something serious to happen, like Clay or
Adams get impeached, so they complained about it
forever and demanded retributions. Today we would
probably gripe about if for a while and then just deal with
it, because, like you said, we've become so used to
political scandals that we know unless there's a law
against it, nothing is really going to happen.
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samm williams said
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1.Trail of tears 1838-1839
2. An outline of the area the native Americans were bound to
3. http://www.teachushistory.org/files/indianremoval/IndianRemoval-Documents.pdf
4. This document gives the small area the native Americans
were made to move to after America decided to seclude them.
The Trail of Tears came into action because of these
regulations, and changed the outlook of our entire nation, as
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well as killed the whole idea of independence which is why we
became a nation in the first place.
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Anisha Rush said
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I just went and read through document A. And I just got to
thinkin how fascnating it is that the Cherokees were
"civilized" to the level the Americans were as far as
government and economic systems. I don't understand
why Jefferson was threatened by the Cherokees. What do
you think, did he fear an uprising or something? It just
seems like a huge betrayal for no reason. Just stating my
preference.
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Jordan Edwards said
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It does seem odd that the Cherokees had relatively the
same goals of prosperity as Americans did and yet the
government felt that it could remove an entire population.
Why wouldn't Americans just surround the Native
Americans with our society, assimilate them even more
into everyday life? If they were hoping to move in the
same direction and had similar goals to what Americans
did... what reason is there for up-rooting an entire culture?
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Nick Puleo said
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I agree with you. Do you think the Texas Declaration of
Independence had the same effect as the U.S. did? The United
States Declaration gave them unity and foreign support
allowing them to claim victory, so do you think the Texans
needed their declaration?
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Nick Puleo said
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I've noticed that that is a common theme since the Declaration
of Indpendence by Jefferson. I actually find it really interesting
how many other documents with similar purposes throughout
history follow the same set up. The French declaration, the
declaration of womon's rights and sentiments, the texas
declaration. It really shows just how masterfully written the
U.S.' Declaration of Independence is, Jefferson did a
phenominal job.
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Katie Tougas said
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I thought that Clay was mainly power hungry and knew exactly
what he was trying to do when he told Adams that he had his
support. I think he was only concerned with guaranteeing
himself a a spot in the cabinet whether he really supported
Adams or not.
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Emily Elder said
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I feel like that could be underestimating Clay. He did
come up with the American System and helped the North
and South compromise after the South Carolina
Exposition caused so many problems. He proved his
worth as a politician and leader in the government, and I
hope he wouldn't do something he knew would be bad for
America just because he wanted a position of power.
Hopefully he had some amount of faith in Adams, if only
the fact that Clay believed he was the better of two evils...
But maybe I'm overestimating him! :)
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Kevin Giordano said
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Kevin Giordano said
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1) The Nullification Crisis of 1832
2) President Jackson's Proclamation on South Carolina's
Nullification of the Tarriffs. This is Andrew Jackson's response
to South Carolina trying to nullify the tarriffs.
3) http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=lled&
fileName=004/lled004.db&recNum=593
4) Since the soverignty of the United States federal government
had been challenged by South Carolina attempting to nullify the
tarriffs in their state, President Jackson issued this proclamation
which stated his opinion: he would enforce the tarriffs even if it
meant the use of force (which he passed the Force Act for).
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Matt Gremillion said
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I like how your document goes perfectly along with what
Jackson did during his presidency. Like the book said, this
tactic by South Carolina might have scared somebody like
John Quincy Adams, but would never make someone like
Jackson back down. That was a good choice Mario.
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Kevin Giordano said
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Thank you I just love history. I thought reading it
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showed me how commanding Jackson really could
be.
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Matt Gremillion said
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1.) Corrupt Bargain of 1824
2.) Picture of John Quincy Adams, president who participtated
in "The Corrupt Bargain"
3.)http://www.ushistory.org/us/images/00007831.jpg
4.) During the election of 1824, John Quincy Adams and Henry
Clay were said to have made a deal, allowing Henry Clay to be
the Secretary of State (although it was never confirmed). This
picture is of John Quincy Adams, the president that was
hammered on be Jacksonians, because of what he was said to
have done, even though it was a common practice at the time.
This picture goes along with the "Corrupt Bargain" because
JQA was in it, and it goes along with the themes of the chapter,
because this is the beginning of the new Jacksonian Era and
those presidencies and such.
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Kevin Giordano said
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Wow from that picture you can really tell what kind of
person he was! Didn't seem like the person I'd invite to a
party though.
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Tori Reifschneider said
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I really like how you found a primary source that represents the
Mexican side! I've only looked at ones that idealize what the
Americans were doing and feeling so I found this quite
fascinating. It's interesting to see that Genneral Santa Anna was
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really loved by his people and how much of an impact he made
concerning the war.
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Tori Reifschneider said
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I really like how you found a primary source that represents the
Mexican side! I've only looked at ones that idealize what the
Americans were doing and feeling so I found this quite
fascinating. It's interesting to see that Genneral Santa Anna was
really loved by his people and how much of an impact he made
concerning the war.
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Tori Reifschneider said
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I really like how you found a primary source that represents the
Mexican side! I've only looked at ones that idealize what the
Americans were doing and feeling so I found this quite
fascinating. It's interesting to see that Genneral Santa Anna was
really loved by his people and how much of an impact he made
concerning the war.
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Tori Reifschneider said
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I really like how you found a primary source that represents the
Mexican side! I've only looked at ones that idealize what the
Americans were doing and feeling so I found this quite
fascinating. It's interesting to see that Genneral Santa Anna was
really loved by his people and how much of an impact he made
concerning the war.
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1. The Corrupt Bargain of 1824
2. This primary source is a pamphlet addressed to the Boston
voters, campaigning for their support of John Quincy Adams.
3. http://memory.loc.gov/rbc/rbpe/rbpe05/rbpe053/05302300
/001dr.jpg
4. John Quincy Adams was not the most popular candidate in
the election of 1824, that was Andrew Jackson. However, he
obviously had his vein of support in the public, and he
campaigned for more (as the pamphlet shows). However, no
candidate in the election pulled out with a majority vote from
the Electoral College, so according to the Twelfth Amendment,
the vote went to the House of Representatives. Thanks to an
alliance with Henry Clay who was the Speaker of the House
and able to swing the vote, Adams was elected despite his lack
of majority and proceeded to appoint Clay as Secretary of State.
This action led their deal to be criticized as a "corrupt bargain"
by the general public. It could be seen today as an average day
in politics by some people.
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Patrick Sobecki said
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I liked the fact that you found a source from John Quincy
Adams campaigning for support. From what the book
said, it sounded like, thanks to Clay, this guy just skated
into office on luck. Nice to see that he actually worked.
Great job.
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Lara Meyer said
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1. The Nullification Crisis of 1832
2. After Jackson passed his proclamation, Congress passed the
Force Act that authorized the use of military force against any
state that resisted the tariff acts. In 1833, Henry Clay helped
negotiate a compromise bill with Calhoun that lowered tariffs.
The Compromise Tariff of 1833 was eventually accepted by
South Carolina and ended the nullification crisis.
3. http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&
fileName=004/llsl004.db&recNum=676
4. The Nullification crisis was ended with the Compromise
Tariff of 1833. Calhoun saw how this really affected the south
and tried to help. He believed because all the cotton produced
in the south that all the industries would start there. This would
affect the American economy as a whole, and decrease its
possible revenue. This ties into the American economy through
out chapter 13.
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Lara Meyer said
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I feel that Jackson really let down the people who supported
him in his choice of passing these tariffs. It was unfair to the
south and it really damaged thier economy. I understand that
this might have been logical to Jackson, but why would he let
down the people who voted for him?
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Esteni Dominguez said
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I think he did this because he needed the majority to favor
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him. Though Southerners were supporters of Jackson,
they were not the majority. The Southern region was also
somewhat dependent of Northern states and Jackson may
have felt that with time the south would see that their only
option for succeeding was to join in, regardless if they
benefited from it or not. I'm not sure if that makes sense
but that may be somewhat of an explanation as to why
Jackson did this.
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Lara Meyer said
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That does make a really good point and I agree with
it. Though just like Calhoun I beileve that if the
south was given the chance to succed they could
have. Even today you see that the south isn't as
evolved has the north. I'm sure there are other factors
that lead to the North being more evolved but
Jackson went against his followers with his tariff.
I'm not entirely sure he wanted to get the Northern
voters on his side because he might not have wanted
to re run as president.
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Anisha Rush said
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1. Trail of Tears
2. This is the letter sent to Jackson by Cherokee chief, Chief
John Ross. Basically, Ross expresses the hurt feelings of his
tribe. They feel abandoned by the United States. He also
includes a brief description of how their government is set up
by Chiefs, Headmen, or any other title.
3. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4h3083t.html
4. This letter is a response to the Indian Removal Act of
1830-1832 that lead to the mass exodus refered to the Trail of
Tears.
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1. Trail of Tears
2. This letter was written to Martin Van Buren by Emerson to
express his unhappiness with the governements actions towards
the inidian population.
3. http://www.rwe.org/index2.php?option=com_content&
do_pdf=1&id=79
4. This letter is alomost saying "shame on you" to the president.
Emerson discusses the facts and the will of the Indian people as
a whole(unlike the misrepresentation seen by the "treaty" which
gives up all cherokee land) . He thinks that the Cherokee people
are being betrayed and is requesting the president to allow the
inidians to contine living in peace.
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Tyler Wilson said
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1. Corrupt Bargain
2. A letter from Henry Clay predicting the results of the 1824
presidential election
3. http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/documents
/documents_p2.cfm?doc=59
4. I thought this was really interesting how Clay still thought he
was going to win the election. He says that "The states of Ohio,
Kentucky, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri and Louisiana, according
to indisputable information received here, remain unshaken in
their determination to support me." What's ironic is that Illinois,
Louisiana, and Indiana all voted for Jackson. He also lost South
Carolina to Jackson. I think all these losses to Jackson probably
helped lead to him conspiring against Jackson. I also thought it
was cool how he kept his beliefs about the tariffs even though it
lost him votes, which means maybe he wasn't such a power
hungry traitor like people made him out to be.
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1. The Battle of the Alamo
2. A letter written by William Travis, commander of the Alamo,
describing their desperate situation.
3. http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/learning_history/alamo
/preparing1.cfm
4. The Battle of the Alamo was what gave the Texans the
motivation to fight their war of independence, to avenge the
deaths of so many of their comrades and beat back the so called
"Napoleon of the West", Antonio Lopez de Santana.
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