April 9, 1980 The semi-monthly meeting of the Spotsylvania County

A p r i l 9 , 1980
The semi-monthly meeting of t h e S p o t s y l v a n i a County Planning Commission
was h e l d on A p r i l 9 , 1980.
Members P r e s e n t : Robert Hornbuckle, Chairman Frank Colvin, Vice-chairman Anne H i l l d r u p , S e c r e t a r y Chester Quarles W i l l i e Conyers Ed McAlister John Mastin Sam Goodwin J o e Brooks W i l l i e Jett Also p r e s e n t was Robert S c o t t , Zoning A d m i n i s t r a t o r .
The meeting was c a l l e d t o o r d e r by M r . Hornbuckle, t h e Chairman.
Conyers made motion t o approve t h e minutes of t h e March 1 2 ,
1980 meeting, seconded by M s . H i l l d r u p and approved unanimously.
Mr.
M s . H i l l d r u p made a motion t o d i s p e n s e w i t h t h e r e a d i n g o f t h e
March 1 9 , 1980 minutes, seconded by M r . Q u a r l e s and approved
unanimously.
AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE :
80-E Board of S u p e r v i s o r s : Amendment t o Zoning A r t i c l e 6-1.10
S e c t i o n 1 (County Code A r t i c l e 18-20) t o a l l o w f a s t e r a p p r o v a l
o f u s e s shown a s p e r m i t t e d under a l l zoning d i s t r i c t s .
S c o t t e x p l a i n e d t h e amendment t o t h e p u b l i c and t h e Commission
members.
Mr.
Mr. Scott:
Is t h e r e anyone who would speak i n f a v o r of t h i s
request?...^^ t h e r e anyone who would speak a g a i n s t t h i s r e q u e s t ?
~f n o t , we s h a l l c l o s e t h e h e a r i n g on t h i s c a s e .
CONDITIONAL PERMITS :
CP 80-6 Gerald L . A l d r i c h :
Requests a c o n d i t i o n a l p e r m i t f o r a
junk yard on p r o p e r t y zoned A g r i c u l t u r a l 2 ( A - 2 ) .
The e n t r a n c e
road t o the p r o p e r t y i s l o c a t e d on t h e North s i d e of R t . 632
approximately 1 m i l e W e s t of R t . 1. P a r c e l s 49 ( 4 ) 2B & 3B
(7.5 acres)
L
Mr.
Scott:
Is t h e r e anyone who would speak f o r t h i s r e q u e s t ?
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M r . F l i p S a s s e r , lawyer r e p r e s e n t i n g M r . A l d r i c h :
I have c o p i e s
R t . 632 i s a b o u t 450 f e e t up from t h e
o f t h e house l o c a t i o n .
y a r d . The l a n d i n q u e s t i o n i s o f commercial c h a r a c t e r . The
S o u t h e a s t e r n y a r d i s a b o u t one-half m i l e from t h i s p r o p e r t y .
There i s a n u r s e r y a b o u t f o u r - t e n t h s o f a m i l e away. There i s
a l s o a kennel t h e r e which was a c o n d i t i o n a l p e r m i t t e d u s e on
an a d j a c e n t p a r c e l of l a n d . A t any r a t e , j u n k y a r d s a r e c o n d i t i o n a l
permitted uses i n Agricultural 2 a r e a s , M r . Aldrich i s asking
t h a t t h e c o n d i t i o n a l p e r m i t t e d u s e be g r a n t e d f o r t h e e n t i r e
p a r c e l . H e i s more t h a n w i l l i n g t o p u t up any t y p e o f f e n c e .
H e has trees on a l a r g e p i e c e o f t h e p r o p e r t y .
The trees s t a r t
a b o u t 100 f e e t from t h e s o u t h e r n boundary l i n e . H e would l i k e
t o keep a 50 f o o t b u f f e r zone. H e would l i k e t o k e e p t h e trees
on t h e p r o p e r t y . H e i s w i l l i n g t o a b i d e by any c o n d i t i o n s a s
f a r a s f e n c i n g g o e s . H e i s n o t going t o s e l l p a r t s from t h e
property.
T h i s w i l l be a s t o r a g e a r e a . H e w i l l l i v e on t h a t
p a r c e l . H e w i l l be s e l l i n g t h e p a r t s i n S t a f f o r d County. H e
i s w i l l i n g t o a b i d e by any c o n d i t i o n s t h a t t h e Commission submits
t o t h e Board o f S u p e r v i s o r s .
Mr.
IS
S c o t t : Is t h e r e anyone e l s e who would speak f o r t h i s r e q u e s t ?
t h e r e anyone who would speak a g a i n s t t h i s ~ q u e s t ?
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M r . CleoShWqRt. 5 , Box 634, Thornburg, VA:
I r e p r e s e n t s e v e r a l o f t h e r e s i d e n t s on R t .
I l i v e on R t . 632.
632 who a r e opposed
t o t h e junk y a r d .
( P r e s e n t e d a p e t i t i o n ) W e a r e opposed t o t h e
1. I t i s n o t complimentary t o t h e
junk y a r d f o r t h r e e r e a s o n s :
2.
T h e ~ ea r e enough junk y a r d s on R t . 632 a l r e a d y .
community.
3. The junk y a r d , S o u t h e a s t e r n Auto Wreckers, i s a l r e a d y an
632.
I am opposed t o t h e junk y a r d i n any form.
eyesore t o R t .
M r . McAlister:
Mr.
Shawn: R i g h t a c r o s s t h e s t r e e t .
Scott:
request?
Mr.
Where do you l i v e i n c o n n e c t i o n w i t h t h i s p r o p e r t y ?
Is t h e r e anyone else who would speak a g a i n s t t h i s
George Kuzma: The S o u t h e a s t e r n Auto Wreckers workers a r e coming
i n a l l h o u r s o f t h e n i g h t and h a u l i n g c a r s o u t o f t h e junk y a r d
down t h e s i d e r o a d .
The l a r g e t r u c k s a r e knocking down trees.
You can s a y t h a t t h e r e w o n ' t b e any damage, b u t one way o r t h e
o t h e r t h e l a n d w i l l be damaged. W e a l r e a d y have junk yardlson
R t . 632.
I t seems t h a t R t . 632 h a s become a p o p u l a r p l a c e f o r
junk y a r d s .
I t i s t i m e t h a t t h e y p u t a s t o p t o i t . Why d o e s n ' t
he p u t t h e junk y a r d i n S t a f f o r d ?
Mr.
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I am opposed, mainly,
M r . Ted Ware, R t . 5 , Box 638, Thornburg, VA:
because I w i l l be l i v i n g between two junk y a r d s . M r . S a s s e r
s t a t e d t h a t t h e tress on t h e p r o p e r t y would s t a y t h e r e . They
They a r e
w i l l c e r t a i n l y s t a y t h e r e because t h e y belong t o m e .
I n the w i n t e r when t h e r e a r e n o t any l e a v e s
on my p r o p e r t y .
on t h e trees you can see t h e junk yard t h r o u g h t h e trees. You can :
s e e a junk y a r d i f it i s t h e r e . W e have junk a l l down t h a t way.
W e need dumpsters on t h e c o r n e r o f ~ t 632
. and R t . 1. I am
opposed t o a n o t h e r junk y a r d i n any form o r f a s h i o n .
Shawn: I have h o r s e s and t h e y a r e k e p t j u s t a d j a c e n t t o t h e
There may be
road t h a t goes back t o t h e proposed junk y a r d .
n o i s e spooking my h o r s e s . Even now, t h a t wrecker t h a t he owns
goes up and down t h e r o a d . My f e n c e i s a b o u t two t o t h r e e f e e t
from t h e edge of t h a t r o a d .
Mr.
5 , Box 635, Thornburg, VA:
I am opposed t o
it. How much easement t o i n g r e s s and o u t g r e s s should a b u s i n e s s
t r y i n g t o g e t a p e r m i t h a v e ? A l l he h a s i s a s m a l l road t h e r e .
Mr.
J . Acres,
Rt.
S c o t t : There i s n o t s e t amount f o r t h e road because it i s
on h i s p r o p e r t y .
I f it were a p u b l i c r o a d , i t would have an
amount s e t .
Mr.
M r . Acres:
I am opposed t o it.
M r s . Sue Spoon: I have l i v e d b e s i d e t h e S o u t h e a s t e r n Auto Wreckers
yard f o r t e n y e a r s .
I have had many problems t h e r e .
There i s no
enforcement o f law. H e i s c l o s e d now, b u t he s t o r e s g a r a g e and
In other
t r a s h from h i s p l a c e t h a t i s o p e r a t e d on R t . 1 t h e r e .
words, i t i s a l a n d f i l l . When it r a i n s , h e u s e s o l d hoods o f c a r s
t o s t o p t h e r a i n from washing t h e road away. My son g e t s home
from work around twelve o r one o ' c l o c k and s e e s p e o p l e a t t h e
junk y a r d who a r e n o t a u t h o r i z e d t o be t h e r e .
I d o n ' t l i k e the
i d e a t h a t someone c o u l d b e i n t h e junk y a r d . H e i s n o t t h e r e
t o t a k e c a r e o f i t . When I go t o plow my f i e l d , t h e r e a r e n o t h i n g
but r a t s there.
I have t o keep c a t s around.
I n o t i f i e d t h e Health
Department a b o u t it. They s a i d it was up t o him t o t a k e c a r e of
it. There h a s been no enforcement o f h e a l t h s t a n d a r d s .
In the
w i n t e r t i m e , you can see through t h e trees even i f t h e y a r e p i n e s .
M r .Shawn and M r . Ware b o t h have b e a u t i f u l homes and, I would h a t e
t o s e e a junk yard b e s i d e them. A junk y a r d lowers t h e p r o p e r t y
v a l u e , b u t they d o n ' t t h i n k a b o u t when you pay your t a x e s .
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M r . Sasser:
The A l d r i c h e s w i l l be l i v i n g on t h e p r o p e r t y .
They
p l a n t o a b i d e by t h e requirements t h a t t h e Commission recommends
t o t h e Board.
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M r . Hornbuckle i n q u i r e d about t h e e x a c t l o c a t i o n of c a r s on t h e
p r o p e r t y . H e a l s o i n q u i r e d about t h e two t r a i l e r s on t h e p r o p e r t y .
I t was noted by M r . S a s s e r t h a t M r . A l d r i c h p l a n s t o use t h e p r o p e r t y
i n t h e back f o r s t o r a g e of c a r s . I t was a l s o noted by s e v e r a l
r e s i d e n t s t h a t M r . A l r i c h owned t h e two t r a i l e r s and t h a t one was
on t h e p r o p e r t y i l l e g a l l y .
M s . Hilldrup:
A r e they p u t t i n g t h e c a r s t h e r e a f t e r t h e y a r e
stripped f o r parts?
S a s s e r : They p l a c e t h e c a r s t h e r e . The c a r s a r e s t r i p p e d
and t h e p a r t s w i l l be s o l d i n S t a f f o r d . A f t e r s t r i p p i n g , t h e
s h e l l i s l e f t . T h a t i s t h e l a s t p a r t o f t h e c a r , t h e body.
They a r e s o l d t o a metal d e a l e r . The c a r s w o n ' t s t a y t h e r e f o r
ten years.
Mr.
M r . S c o t t : One of t h e t r a i l e r s on t h e p r o p e r t y i s occupied by
M r . A l d r i c h ' s mother.
The o t h e r t r a i l e r i s empty.
The Zoning
Department h a s c o n t a c t e d t h e m a b o u t t h e t r a i l e r s .
M r . W i l l i e Jett:
Is t h i s a farm t h a t was d i v i d e d i n t o f i v e a c r e
p a r c e l s ? Is t h i s t h e l a n d t h a t U n i v e r s a l Land and Development
Company d i v i d e d i n t o p a r c e l s ?
M r . Kuzma:
I t i s t h e S h i r l e y Green p r o p e r t y t h a t was d i v i d e d .
This l a n d was d i v i d e d i n t o p a r c e l s some y e a r s bsck.
There a r e s e v e r a l new homes t h e r e now.
M r . Jett:
Spoon s t a t e d t h a t i f t h e c a r s w e r e c ushed on t h e p r o p e r t y ,
t h e land- would n o t l o n g e r b e good because of t h e g a s t h a t w a s t e s
o u t of t h e c a r s and t h e broken g l a s s .
Mrs.
Mr.
Sasser:
This yard i s j u s t f o r storage.
M r . S c o t t noted t h a t t h e S o u t h e a s t e r n Auto Wreckers junk y a r d
was i n e x i s t e n c e p r i o r t o t h e zoning o r d i n a n c e . H e s t a t e d t h a t
i s why c o n d i t i o n s could n o t b e s e t on t h e e x i s t i n g junk y a r d .
M r . S c o t t s t a t e d t h a t t h e owner, M r . Redmond, was f i n e d f i f t y
d o l l a r s a t one t i m e f o r a v i o l a t i o n . M r . S c o t t a l s o noted t h a t
M r s . Sue Spoon and h e r husband w e r e once p a r t n e r s w i t h t h e owner
o f t h e S o u t h e a s t e r n Auto Wreckers y a r d . M r s . Spoon e x p l a i n e d
t h e p a r t n e r s h i p t o t h e members of t h e Commission and t h e audience.
She s t a t e d t h a t s h e and h e r husband a r e no l o n g e r p a r t n e r s because
t h e y d i d n o t want t o see t h e l a n d used i n t h a t f a s h i o n .
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Mrs. Shawn: We have a $100,000 home back t h e r e , and we d o n ' t
want t o s e e a junk yard r i g h t i n o u r back y a r d .
Mr.
Where would t h e junk y a r d be i n c o n n e c t i o n w i t h
Mr.
Shawn: The junk y a r d would b e d i r e c t l y behind t h e house.
Colvin:
your home?
...
M r . Scott:
Is t h e r e anyone e l s e t o speak a g a i n s t t h i s r e q u e s t ?
Is t h e r e anyone e l s e who would speak f o r t h i s r e q u e s t ?
I f not,
...
we s h a l l go on t o t h e n e x t c a s e .
REZONING (AMENDMENT TO THE M A P ) :
80-4 Bragg H i l l E n t e r p r i s e s : Requests r e z o n i n g from R e s i d e n t i a l 2 ( R - 2 ) t o Commercial 3 (C-3) p r o p e r t y l o c a t e d on t h e North s i d e of Bragg Road approximately 1400 f e e t E a s t of t h e d r y b r i d g e over R t . 1-95.
P a r c e l 14 ( A ) 6D ( . 4 3 a c r e s ) . M r . J u l e s E l l i o t t : We a r e r e q u e s t i n g t h i s because we would l i k e t o p u t i n a s m a l l hardware s t o r e and a drug s t o r e i n t h a t l o c a t i o n . There a r e 1 , 0 6 3 f a m i l i e s w i t h i n walking d i s t a n c e t o t h i s l o c a t i o n . Hornbuckle i n q u i r e d about t h e r e q u e s t f o r Commercial 3 s t a t i n g t h a t it was heavy commercial. M r . E l l i o t k s t a t e d t h a t he wanted t o have a r e c r e a t i o n a l c e n t e r ( p o o l h a l l ) w i t h p i n b a l l machines. M r . E l l i o t t s t a t e d t h a t a c c o r d i n g t o t h e zoning o r d i n a n c e i f he had more t h a n two p i n b a l l machines, he would have t o c l a s s i f y t h e b u i l d i n g a s an a r c a d e . He s t a t e d t h a t an a r c a d e was a c o n d i t i o n a l p e r m i t t e d use i n Commercial 3 zoning. Mr.
Mr.
S c o t t : IS t h e r e anyone e l s e who would speak f o r t h i s r e q u e s t ?
Is t h e r e anyone who would speak a g a i n s t t h i s r e q u e s t ?
... ... M r . C h r i s t o p h e r Jackson, 134 Hickcock C i r c l e , F r e d e r i c k s b u r g , VA: I am n o t speaking f o r o r a g a i n s t t h i s r e q u e s t .
I am j u s t i n t e r e s t e d i n what t h y p l a n t o p u t i n t h e l o c a t i o n . Following f u r t h e r d i s c u s s i o n , t h e membersof t h e Commission decided s t u d y t h e allowing of an a r c a d e i n Commercial 2 ( C - 2 ) zoning a s an c o n d i t i o n a l p e r m i t t e d u s e . S c o t t : Is t h e r e anyone e l s e who would speak concerning t h i s I f n o t we s h a l l c l o s e t h e h e a r i n g on t h i s c a s e . request?
Mr.
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C P 80-6 G e r a l d I,.
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Aldrich:
M r . Colvin made a motion t o e n t e r t h e p e t i t i o n p r e s e n t e d by
M r . Swan i n o p p o s i t i o n t o C P 80-6 be i n t o t h e r e c o r d ,
seconded by M s . H i l l d r u p and approved unanimously.
M s . H i l l d r u p made a motion t o c o n t i n u e t h e p u b l i c h e a r i n g u n t i l
A p r i l 1 6 , 1980, seconded by M r . Colvin and approved unanimously.
There b e i n g no - i u r t h e r b u s i n e s s o r d i s c u s s i o n , t h e meeting was
adjourned by M r . Hornbuckle, t h e Chairman.
Respectfully submitted,
F a i t h Broaddus
Recording S e c r e t a r y