UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
Talk with academic advisors, faculty and staff while learning more about UF's PaCE program. This chat is for
newly admitted PaCE students and family members. Academic Advisors will be available to answer questions in
college specific chat rooms.
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pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): Good evening everyone! Welcome to our PaCE chat. We'll get started in just a
moment.
pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): Hi everyone, my name is Kris Klann and I'm Associate Director in New Student
& Family Programs at UF.
pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): We have 5 specific chat rooms available, which you can find in the right hand
corner. Or you can post general question in the main lobby, and we will answer them for you.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Hello everyone, I'm Lynn O'Sickey, an academic advisor in the College of
Liberal Arts and Sciences. I'd be happy to answer general academic questions or question in the Liberal Arts
and Sciences chat room if CLAS is your intended major.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Hi everyone, I am Meredith Beaupre from the College of Liberal Arts and
Sciences. I'll be between here and the CLAS room answering questions for you
mguzman: Hi Meredith or Lynn,
mguzman: Hi Meredith,
us12356: I don't see the specific chat rooms just the lobby at the moment.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Evening all! I'm Joe Spillane, Associate Dean of the College of Liberal Arts and
Sciences, and Director of the Academic Advising Center, and I'll be joining the chat this evening as well!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): mguzman - how can we help?
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Good evening everyone, I'm Jaime Gresley the Associate Dean of
Students. We're excited you've all joined us!
FallOutAtTheDisco: Is paCE similar to flvs?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): PaCE courses are UF courses, taught through UF Online
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): @us12356 you can add additional chat room tabs using the add more
chat rooms drop down menu in the upper right hand menu.
mguzman: Hi Meredith or Lynn, My daughter is interested in taking BS HEALTH EDUCATION, then plans on
going to DPT grad school, did you decide if you were going to let students take science critical tracking courses
at Community college so DPT SCHOOL will accept them as prerequisites ?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @mguzman.....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): FallOut, PaCE is UF online classes, they are not similar to FLVS which is high
school level and not taught by UF.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): The health education questions would be best suited for HHP (Owen will
be joining us and running that room shortly), and the Physical Therapy questions could be answered by the prehealth advisor in that room
us12356: Unfortunately the display only has a "logout" in the right hand corner.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): us12356, you might try maximizing your window or try a different browser.
PaigeFry: How are the online courses structured and how will we be tested on them?
lombofr: There is some overlapping. On the left of the logout there is an arrow down that will give you the
option.
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pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @PaigeFry...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): the course structures all vary a bit by professor, but they typically include
a combination of video recorded lectures, readings, etc. Many professors utilize ProctorU for testing....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): which is a proctoring service that allows the students to take the test
from their chosen location, while a proctor uses the webcam to ensure academic integrity.
kfilson: Are exams all multiple choice? How does a university know that their students are upholding the
highest integrity? Seems SO hard to monitor.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @kfilson...
FallOutAtTheDisco: Is there a min/max enrollment for classes? Will I be guaranteed enrollment in the classes I
choose?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): PaigeFry, you WILL definitely notice some differences course to course, as you
would in face to face courses.
mguzman: Ok I'll wait for Owen from HHS. In the meantime, are PACE students allowed to purchase meal plans
on campus. Someone on the PACE Facebook mentioned this so I wanted to verify it.
Teremuniz: If a student chooses to double major would all prereq classes for both majors need to be
completed before transitioning to campus?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): the structure of the exam varies by professor. Our professors work
closely with our course development team and our distance education professionals to keep the highest levels
of academic integrity we can.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): FallOut...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @mguzman - meal plans ARE available for purchase for PaCEstudents
us12356: Different Browser ty
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): FallOut...Enrollment will vary, just as it does with face-to-face courses. Some
will have large enrollments, especially ones with multiple choice testing, but others--like English Composition,
Spanish, etc--will be much smaller
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @teremuniz - probably not. the student should talk to advisors in both
colleges to make sure the plan will work, but most students don't complete both majors requirements until
close to graduation
Liza482: SO we will be able to live on campus? I was under the impression that we cannot
msihachak: What kind of housing will PaCE students have during their first year?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @msihachak - many PaCE students are moving to Gainesville and
securing housing near campus through local apartment complexes
pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): hi Liza482, PaCE students, while completing the UF Online portion of their
degree, will not be able to live on campus. Once you've completed the requirements to transition to campus,
you can apply for on-campus housing.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): kfilson...the university provides online proctoring where needed, to ensure
integrity
PaigeFry: Is it possible for PaCE students to participate in the study abroad program? And if so, when and how
would one be able to partake in it?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @PaigeFry...
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pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): @msihachak, if students are looking to move to Gainesville while completing
the UF Online portion of their degree, UF's Office of Off Campus Life (offcampus.ufl.edu) is a great resource for
helping students identify local housing that works for them.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): students will need to discuss this with the college in which they are
enrolled, but Study Abroad is a possibility while in PaCE. You'd need to discuss it in detail with an advisor to
make sure that programming requirements would be met.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @PaigeFry - to get an idea of some of the possible opportunities, visit
www.ufic.ufl.edu, which is our International Center home page
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): If there are any HHP (Sport Management, Health Education, Tourism, Event
and Recreation Management) questions, let me know. I've opened the HHP Chatroom.
mguzman: Hi Owen, my daughter is planning to take BS HEALTH EDUCATION, can she take the science critical
tracking courses such as Anantomy/physiology/biology at a community college like Santa Fe, so it will be
accepted for DPT grad school.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @mguzman - I think Owen is answering that in the HHP room
Knl1116: After completing the initial 60 credits required for the online portion of PaCE and transition to
campus, would I be in a traditional UF classroom with traditional students or just in a classroom with PaCE
students?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @knl - after transitioning to campus, you'll be in the mix with all other UF
students
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): You'd be no different than any other UF student! Nothing separate at all...
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): mguzman - I just responded in the HHP chat room.
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Welcome to thosewho recentlyjoined the chat. Feel free to post general
questions here in the lobby or addyour college's specific chatroom tochatwith our academic advisors.
mguzman: How do I switch from lobby to HHP chat room?
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): once there select HHP and you will see a new tab pop up
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): the green button with the + sign on the top bar that says Add More
Chatrooms will give you the option
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): @mguzman: on the left hand screen you will see add chat room
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): from there you can switch in and out of the lobby and the various
advising rooms
Liza482: How is PaCE different from UF online. I noticed that there are more majors in PaCE than there is in UF
online
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @Liza...
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Liza482: great question
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): PaCE courses are taught using the UF Online infrastructure....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): but there are manymore PaCE options because only parts of the
programs have to be available online. For UF Online degrees, the entire program has to be available since those
folks never transition to campus.
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): PaCE students will be able to transition to campus once they meet the
60 credits, tracking and 15 credits of online courses
Knl1116: I'm unable to switch to a different chat room so I'm just going to ask a few pre-health questions
here... Why is PaCE advised against for Pre-health students?
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familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Knl116 are you able to see the add more chatrooms on the top bar?
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): it is in the right hand corner with a green circle and white plus sign
Knl1116: No
us12356: Chrome seems to work better than Firefox/Mozilla
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): knl1116...
kfilson: My Chrome does not work well. It is very difficult in fact.
Knl1116: I'm on a phone so that's probably why it won't work. Can you answer my question in here?
us12356: I mean for this chatroom only
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): We don't necessarily recommend PaCE for students who know they want to
go to medical school. The main reason is because a majority of medical schools do not accept online courses
for pre-requisites. Therefore, we wouldn't recommend taking courses like Chemistry or Biology through UF
Online. It is possible to take some of the courses at UF once you transition to campus, but that will be different
for every student. For some students it would mean that they don't have enough time to finish the prerequisites before graduating.
Knl1116: I can understand then why biology and chemistry are not majors in the PaCE program. But then why is
microbiology a PaCE major when it is arguably the best pre-med major to do?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): knl1116, first there is no 'best' premed major. Second, students may choose
to do microbiology to prepare for other careers.
Knl1116: What is the difference between a transition to campus and a transfer to campus?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @knl....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): transitioning to campus is something that PaCE students will do when
the transition and programming requirements for their major are met. This is a guaranteed spot in UF
residential courses and in their chosen PaCE major....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): transfer students have completed part of their coursework at another
institution and are applying to UF as incoming students. They do not have a guarantee of admission to UF/their
chosen major
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): @knl1116...Yes, transfer students have to apply separately for transfer
admission, whereas PaCE students are already UF students
Knl1116: Will students essentially be completing most of their prerequisites online with PaCE before they get
onto campus?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Knl1116, yes that's what most students at UF do in their first 60 hours.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Knl1116, as well as taking courses to meet other university requirements.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Knl1116, yes, important to bear in mind that you'll be doing in PaCE what most
UF students are doing in terms of competing prerequisites, tracking courses, general education requirements,
etc.
Knl1116: How will PaCE students be expected to complete labs for any science courses, as they won't have
access to those materials?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @knl1116....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): each science course is different, some have virtual labs, some have a
"boot camp" model where students come to campus for just a few days and do lab work, and some have a
hybrid model where students complete work at home.
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pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): students can discuss each science course they are interested in with their
advisor and see if the structure will work for that students
Knl1116: So theoretically, a PaCE student in New York could be expected to come to campus for a few days to
complete labs....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @knl1116 - only if the student signs up for that course.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @knl1116 - advisors in each college can discuss what courses would
work for the student to keep them on track in the program and still meet their needs schedule/location-wise
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @knl1116 - most science courses do not have the "boot camp" model
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Remember, too, that depending on the major, science courses might be
able to wait until the student transitions to campus, thus allowing for the traditional lab experience
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Knll1116 these are great questions, our advisors at UF are phenomenal
at helping students create individually tailored schedules that meet both academic and personal needs
luisengracio0996: How does participating in Pace affect scholarships? As an incoming freshman entering
college with prior college credits, are they still eligible for financial aid and/or merit based scholarships?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): luisengracio...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): I believe you are eligible for the usual financial aid/scholarships in PaCE. You
can contact Financial aid for more info:
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): http://www.sfa.ufl.edu/uf-pace/
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Yes Lynn is correct! Financial Aid will be sending out Financial Aid
packages in April that will provide you specifics about your available aid
Knl1116: Does the fact that I applied exploratory rather than biology or psychology mean that I probably would
have been offered regular admission rather than PaCE? As I have read that any other year, the PaCE admitted
students would have simply been offered regular admission
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Knl1116...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Knl1116, no, that's not correct. The PaCE program is designed to increase
access to the University of Florida. Our residential freshman class will be roughly the same size it was last year.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Knl1116...PaCE is an effort to recognize that there are so many talented
applicants that can benefit from UF beyond those that can be admitted as residential freshmen
Knl1116: Then why would Pre-Health majors be admitted into PaCE, as they clearly cannot pursue the
major/career they want with this program?
Obrafour44: Does being part of the PaCE program limit your ability to be in groups such as Marching Band or
the Wind Symphony?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Knl1116...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @obrafour...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): While in PaCE, being part of courses which require on-campus
participation is not something you can do. Once you transition to campus, though, you'll be able to audition
just like any other residential student
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pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Great question! We recognize that many students change their minds from
what they put on their freshman application, and we did not want to exclude students just because they
indicated a prehealth interest; you're right that if pre-health remains your primary interest, PaCE may not be
the best choice for you
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): The pre-health chat would be a good place to explore PaCE/pre-health issues
further...
pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): /
pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): We have about 30 minutes left in our chat. What other questions can we assist
with?
Surfers4: Sorry to join the chat so late. Is there a way to access the earlier portion of the chat. I am unable to
get the chat to scroll back to the beginning
luisengracio0996: So if I understand it correctly, a student in the Pace program completes up to 60 credits and
a minimum of two semesters online before they can transfer to UF. I currently am a dual enrollment student
and upon graduation will have 43 credits both from AP courses and community college. If I attend UF via Pace
and take four courses each semester, I will likely have 18 credits or more for a total of 67 credits. What
happens if they have more than 60 credits?
pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): Hi surfers, thanks for joining! Yes, we will post the transcript from the chat
early next week.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): luisengracio...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): luisengracio, it is fine to be a little over 60 credits as long as you meet your
transition requirements.
Surfers4: From all that I am reading, Pre-Health career tracks will not be served well by PaCE And students who
are planning a Pre-Health major should be looking at other college choices rather than UF. Shame, always
thought we would have been able to keep the "Gator" in our family for a few more generations!!
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Hi potential new students! We are so excited to be speaking with you
tonight. As you continue to explore your options please feel free to asks us questions
luisengracio0996: So depending on your choice of major, for example mathematics, you must complete the
transition requirements of MAC2311, MAC2312 and MAC2313 before you can transfer, correct?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): luisengracio...
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): sorry for the typo "ask"
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): luisengracio, yes, those are the requirements as posted on
http://www.advising.ufl.edu/pace-pathways-to-campus-enrollment/majors/?major=MS. You also have to have
two semesters of enrollment in PaCE, 60 credits total and meet the progression standards required of all
students in CLAS.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Surfers4...
FallOutAtTheDisco: Can I take a few community college course this summer as long as they are transferable?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): As Joe explained, so many students change majors and career paths from the
time they complete their application to admission, UF did not want to leave out those students who might
have other interests.
Teremuniz: Would switching majors delay transition to campus?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Fallout...
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pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): you should discuss that with an advisor in your college, but it is a
possibility
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @teremuniz.l.ll.
Gatorpacer: Why won't the health related schools recognize the PACE program, even though the program is
sanctioned by UF?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @teremuniz - it depends on the major and if we can get the classes done
in time. an advisor in your college could help you explore options
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): All, if you want to view transcripts of these chats, we should have them up on
the CLASPaCE website sometime next week. http://www.advising.ufl.edu/pace-pathways-to-campusenrollment/
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Gatorpacer...
luisengracio0996: So I will start fall of 2015 (1st semester) and also attend spring 2016 (2nd semester) and as
long as I have met the transition requirements, I should be able to transfer to UF come fall of 2016.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): luisen....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Correct
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): That is correct, assuming you can meet all the transition and
programming requirements for your major
FallOutAtTheDisco: Is it acceptable to contact an advisor in my preferred college prior to submitting my paCE
contract?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @fallout...yes it is
luisengracio0996: What are programing requirements?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Health professions are very hands on and at the moment they prefer classes
to be in person. Remember, most students apply to 15+ medical schools in order to maximize their chances of
acceptance, given the increasingly competitive nature of admittance. So you want to be competitive with as
many programs as possible.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): it depends on the major
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): I'm just referring to the major requirements that you must meet in
addition to the PaCE requirements (60 hours, 2 terms, etc)
mguzman: How many credits can you take online in the summer? Is it considered 1 or 2 semesters (summer A ;
summer B) . Wanted to know this so we can accelerate the transition to UF campus.
us12356: There is no restriction to transferring into a Summer semester provided we've met all the
transitioning and programming requirements correct?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): us12356...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): us12356 - correct
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): us12356...Yes, if you've met the transition requirements after the Spring term,
you could in fact begin taking residential classes as early as the Summer term
luisengracio0996: ok, thank you.
luisengracio0996: Once we accept and enroll in Pace, do we meet with a counselor to reviewtranscripts,
transfer creditsand discuss future courses to take?
us12356: Thank you
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): luisengracio, you will go through the Links online orientation and then have
an advising session with an advisor in your major/college over the summer.
luisengracio0996: ok
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familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): luis: Confirmed PaCE students will begin their orientation programming
in mid April. This online orientation will get you all set up including scheduling your advising appoint
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): luisengracio, that advisor will assist you with your academic plan and getting
registered for classes for fall.
rwagoner97: do you know when DCP will have their requirement posted?
pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): mguzman, PaCE students will begin taking UF Online classes in the Fall.
Summer 2016 will be the first summer term you will be able to take classes through UF. Students often mix
classes between Summer A, B and C when taking summer classes. This is an individual conversation you would
have with your advisor when the time is right.
WQuinlan: My apologies if you have answered this already but, are the UF online classes self taught (like the
FLVS classes) or do the students watch recorded lectures by UF professors?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Rwagoner - I'm not sure but I'll get you the address for their contact
person...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): rwagoner97, afraid not...but their contact information is:
http://www.dcp.ufl.edu/academics/academic-advising
najwab: For a biology major, what type of classes will we be taking online?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @wquinlan....
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): najwab...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): The classes are not like FLVS classes. the courses in PaCE are taught
through UF Online and are created/taught by the same professors our students have on campus
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): najwab, PaCE does not offer a biology major.
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Hi Students and families we have about 10 minutes left on the chat this
evening. The Chat transcripts will be posted at http://www.advising.ufl.edu/pace-pathways-to-campusenrollment but please feel free to email or contact us with any additional questions after the chat
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): The structure varies by course but usually includes recorded lectures as
well as other activities to enhance the course
mguzman: Thanks for answering my question Chris , but I wanted to know the maximum/recommended
number of credits you can take in summer if 2016?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): mguzman...
rwagoner97: what is the best way to schedule an appointment with an advisor for exploratory
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): mguzman, the maximum number of credits to take in a summer term is 18,
but since summer is a shorter semester, 12 credits is more common. What is recommended will depend on
you, your plan and your needs.
WQuinlan: Thank you, that is helpful information. Is there any way to see a sample class?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @rwagoner - email us at [email protected] and I'll help you
mguzman: This online chat was very helpful and has solidified our decision to accept PACE. Thanks you so much
to everybody ! GO GATORS!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): mguzman, Glad we could help.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Welcome to the Gator Nation!!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): @wquinlan - I'm not sure, but if you email me at
[email protected] I will look into it for you
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mguzman: Thanks, Meredith for being so helpful over the phone/email as well!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): No problem :)
WQuinlan: Thank you, Meredith, that would be great!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Happy to help
pacechatmoderator(NSFP_Kris): That concludes our chat for tonight. Thank you everyone for joining in! We will
post the transcript early next week. Please join us again for our next chat on Friday afternoon at 3:00 p.m.
luisengracio0996: I believe you mentioned that the financial aid letters/scholarships go out in April? Do they go
out in time to make a decision and before the Pace acceptance deadline?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Yes
luisengracio0996: Thank you.
Knl1116: Thank you, I appreciate the help
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Talk with academic advisors, faculty and staff while learning more about UF's PaCE program. This chat is for
newly admitted PaCE students and family members. Academic Advisors will be available to answer questions in
college specific chat rooms.
College of Agricultural and Life Sciences
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): Welcome to the College of Agricultural and Life Sciences (CALS) chat
session!
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): Hi @Liza482 did you have any specific questions or just wanting to see
what the buzz is all about?
Liza482: Hi I first came in to see what all the buzz was about actually, but I do have some questions
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): fire away!
Liza482: Well I received an email stating that I have to take some classes apart from the PaCE program, does it
matter what college/university I go to?
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @liza482 not necessarily but we do pre-approve the courses and school
through a "transient student" process. Are you in FL or out of state?
Liza482: I'm in Florida
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 Okay, in most cases students will take courses at the closest
state college but in some cases the local university will work. You can have that discussion with your specific
adviser to determine what is best. What major were you accepted to?
Liza482: I was accepted into Animal Biology
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 Sylvia King will be your adviser ( [email protected]) and will help
you plan the best option. Are you Pre-Vet or have other goals?
Liza482: I'm plan on going into pre-vet. I can also email Ms. Sylvia King with questions?
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 yes you will be able to contact Ms. King moving forward with
your major specific questions but if there is anything else you want to ask now feel free.
Liza482: Well I have something simliar to a florida pre-paid scholarship, my mom has been telling me that she
thinks that the scholarship will not be able to pay for both PaCE and the other school as as transient student.
I've been trying to call my advocate to ask but she pretty busy. Will the scholarship work for both
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 What do you mean "similar" to FL Prepaid? Is it private?
Liza482: The program is called take stock in children, I don't think its private, they just tell me its a non-profit
organization
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Al): Liza482 we are working on your question
Liza482: Ok thank you
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 okay, we will need to ask financial aid or the bursar about that
if we can't get an answer tonight...but we will get an answer in the near future.
Liza482: If we don't get an answer tonight will someone be able to email me?
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Al): @Liza482 It may be faster if you contact the Financial aid office directly
http://www.sfa.ufl.edu/ 352.392.1275
Liza482: Ok that's great! Thank you
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 Anything else we can attempt to answer tonight?
Liza482: I have another question I currently take online classes, the teachers don't necessarily set due dates
but they pressure me to get at least 4 assignment done will be PaCE be anything like that?
Liza482: What courses am I required to take in PaCE in the animal biology major?
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pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 Usually the online courses are pretty structured and have
specific due dates so you will know the expectations when you get the syllabus at the beginning of each
course...does that answer your question?
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 The only PaCE requirement will be a minimum of 15 credits
online over at least two semester and will depend on what/if credits you have through AP/IB/Dual enrollment
if any....
Liza482: Yes it does. Um when are we required to start our courses, because when I first applied to UF I applied
for summer B
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 Ms. King will most likely work with you to be transient for the
critical tracking Science courses so you can have in class instruction
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 The PaCE program will start in fall
Liza482: DO I have to wait to submit my deposit so I can speak with Ms. King? Or can we start discussing this
now, well before I submit it?
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 Nope! you can contact her whenever you want. Glad to hear
you are interested in the program!!!
Liza482: Awesome! Thank you :)
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Amy): @Liza482 We think it will be a great opportunity for you to be a Gator!!
Liza482: Thank you I can't wait to finally be one
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Amy): :)
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @Liza482 I know this Pathway is a little different but it will work for you
and Animal Biology is a great program. The Animal Sciences is a wonderful department...very caring!!
Liza482: :)
Liza482: Thank you for the contact information and for answering my questions. The Pathway is pretty
different but I think I can make it work :)
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Amy): @Liza482 You are welcome.
pacechatmoderator(CALS_Herschel): @ron6791 Hi how are you? Any specific questions?
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Hi Students and families we have about 10 minutes left on the chat this
evening. The Chat transcripts will be posted at http://www.advising.ufl.edu/pace-pathways-to-campusenrollment but please feel free to email or contact us with any additional questions after the chat
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Talk with academic advisors, faculty and staff while learning more about UF's PaCE program. This chat is for
newly admitted PaCE students and family members. Academic Advisors will be available to answer questions in
college specific chat rooms.
College of Business Administration
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Good evening! Welcome to the Business School chat room! My name is Leigh
Smadbeck and I am an Academic Advisor & Career Coach in the Heavener School of Business. Thank you for
joining us tonight.
kfilson: Hello, sorry to see that you had to join a chat while on vacation this week. I was wondering if you have
had the opportunity to gain access yet to the applicants' academic records to help you coach them about what
they have that will count towards requirements and what they still need to take. We wanted to schedule
something with you to gain that information so my son can make a better informed decision.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Hi @kfilson! I remember you :)
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): I have not be given access yet, and I haven't been able to make progress while I
have been away. If you would like to make an appointment for next week, I would be happy to take a look at
your son's high school transcript and go from there.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): I anticipate that I will have the academic record issue sorted out by the end of
next week.
kfilson: Hello. Thank you. Is it acceptable to have our appointment take place over the phone as we're in
Orlando? Just checking.
kfilson: If you were a parent of someone offered this program who is also considering a 'normal' experience at
UCF, what would you tell them to weigh in their decision? How does the BABA degree compare to perhaps a
Finance degree from UCF?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Of course. If you could scan and email me a copy of his HS transcript
beforehand, that would make things easier.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Phone appointments can be scheduled the same way in person appointments
are scheduled, by calling 352-273-0165 during business hours. Our student assistants have access to my
calendar and can schedule a phone appointment at a time that works for you.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): I, personally, would put less emphasis on the academic piece (UCF Finance vs.
UF BABA) and more on the lifestyle choice. For instance, is your son comfortable spending roughly a year at
home, perhaps with a part-time job or internship, knowing that he will eventually come to Gainesville for the
traditional experience? If yes, I think this is the right program for him. A Finance vs. General Studies degree is
less important than what he will do and the experiences he will have while he is in college.
kfilson: And would you add that a UF degree would be more valuable to him out in the job market one day? Is
that safe to say or just a myth? I did not grow up in Florida (I am from the Midwest) so I do not have years of
experience to gauge this.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): While some jobs might require a Finance degree (a very small percentage), the
majority of job offers are given to students who have demonstrated academic success, shown leadership
potential, and have had work experience in their chosen field.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Work experience meaning internship experience
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kfilson: Yes, I am happy to say that my son is comfortable spending roughly a year at home so I think that our
family has that whereas, from these chats and elsewhere, I see some are so crushed that they feel they need to
go live in Gainesville so they don't feel they're missing out.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): The Heavener School of Business is ranked highly, so some people weigh that in
their decision. It is hard for me to quantify the value of a UF degree over other Florida schools, but I believe the
reputation comes from a large and strong alumni network.
kfilson: Yes, I am sure. Thank you.
lombofr: Do all 60 credits have to be done on line. I see a requisite for 15 credits minimum on line but if only
some credits come from HS where are the other credits coming from? Can they attend another school to reach
the 60 credits after getting 15 minimum on line?Thank you,
kfilson: Might you have heard internally what the expectation is ... of the 3,118 offered this program, what is
the expected acceptance percentage? My son was uncomfortable feeling like he might be part of a "guinea
pig" test group as this is the first year. Is UF certain that they will continue to offer this next year and beyond?
Or are they finding that parents and applicants are so stressed out and confused that it is more of a headache
than they expected?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @lombofr, all 60 credits do not need to be done online if you are taking them
at other institutions. The 15 credit minimum refers to UF credits, which technically means there is room for
you to take courses at other schools. We, of course, recommend that you take as many UF courses as possible
to complete the required 60. After all, the degree you will be receiving is from UF, so we would like to see that
your credits are from UF. However, all UF courses must be taken online until you successfully make the
transition to campus.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @kfilson, it is hard to speculate about the percentage of students expected to
accept the offer of admission. The only thing we have to compare it to is the Innovation Academy program,
which felt similar in the beginning. We anticipate that the program will grow in a similar manner to Innovation
Academy
kfilson: Once on campus, how likely will it be that the upper-level courses in the BABA degree might be on-line
as well?
kfilson: Do we anticipate that there will be groups formed of, say, Orlando students who are in the BABA
degree in PaCE or might we not have enough students in BABA/PaCE to form groups like that to help in
studying, etc., like you do in traditional courses?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): The upper level courses for the BABA degree consist of three major
components, some of which are online with the option to attend the live lectures in person. The first
component is the Business Core, which are mostly Electronic Platform (optional live lectures), the second is
Business Electives (some of which are online), and the third is the Area of Specialization chosen by each
individual student. These Area of Specialization courses are most likely not online.
kfilson: The 'open door' policy that helps students get to interact and feel supported by their professor away
from class ... how will the students 'feel' that in PaCE? What would create that experience for them, if at all?
lombofr: Will other accredited universities allow to take classes although you may not be pursuing a Diploma at
that school. Or would UF allow non-UF students to take some classes although the student is not pursuing a
degree at UF?
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pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @kfilson, that is a good question. It is very hard to say, but Orlando tends to be
a popular area for UF students, so I would guess that there would be at least one or two other students from
the Orlando area who will accept the admissions offer. We have not planned any formal study groups, but I
think it is a neat idea that we will look into when the time arises.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Each professor's open door policy looks a bit different. Many students choose
to email their professors anyway these days rather than visit them during office hours. I taught a course last
Fall and never had a single student stop in during my office hours. I had plenty email me. I also had several
make appointments with me. Each professor is different, but most of the time students will be able to email
without a problem and probably set up appointments as well if they plan to visit campus.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @lombofr, the process you are describing is very common. Students often will
take a course or two over the summer at local institutions closer to their home for convenience. In that case,
they are referred to as "transient" students at the host institution, while UF would be their home institution. In
Florida, there is a very easy online application process that occurs before a student takes a course at another
institution that allows the home institution to pre-approve specific courses to ensure that the credit will
transfer.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): More information about taking courses at other institutions as transient
students can be found here: http://warrington.ufl.edu/undergraduate/myheavener/transient.asp
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Students choosing to take a course or two at another school must work closely
with an Academic Advisor like myself to plan which courses are best to take elsewhere.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Let me take a moment to share my email address with you all:
[email protected]
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): As the PaCE Coordinator in the Heavener School of Business, if you have any
questions about PaCE as it relates to the BABA program, please feel free to email me. I will also be doing phone
and in-person appointments that you can schedule by calling 352-273-0165 during business hours (8am-5pm,
Mon-Fri).
kfilson: Last week, we touched on the areas of specialization. EXCERPTS from links you gave us: General studies
majors (BABA-GBA) must declare an area of specialization.<span style
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Yes, an Area of Specialization is a required component of the BABA degree.
There are over 70 different options, and students rarely have difficult selecting one that fits with their interests
and career goals.
kfilson: My entire post didn't show up, sorry. I was simply asking, will they get into those before transitioning
to campus in an on-line format?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): It will depend on the Area of Specialization, but most likely, the Area of
Specialization courses will be done after transitioning to campus.
kfilson: Is there any way to assuage the fears of an applicant who suspects on-line learning may be even MORE
challenging than regular classroom learning? Any data that can be used to encourage, persuade, etc?
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pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): There are two reasons for that. First, the Area of Specialization should be
treated like upper-division major courses, which are typically done in the 3rd and 4rd year. Second, many of
the Area of Specialization courses will not be online, and can therefore only be done after transitioning.
kfilson: OK, thanks for that explanation about the area of specialization.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): While online learning may be unfamiliar to students, it is the wave of the
future. Instructional design is constantly finding new ways to engage students online, and even students who
are on campus at UF quickly realize that most of their courses (especially in the first two years of the Business
degree program) are online anyway.
kfilson: Yes, in fact, I believe that the benefit of doing your first year or so from your "home base" may even
allow you to get better academic results as you are less likely to be distracted by the new experience of being
ON campus. Maturity is a good thing when facing all of those distractions. One more year of being where
you're used to being can provide more stability. Should I be an advertisement for this program?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @kfilson, feel free to join our marketing team!
kfilson: I'm frankly amazed at how many questions are about food plans and recreation access than these types
of questions.
kfilson: Funny, that was my degree. Which brings me to this question. Why isn't Marketing one of the on-line
PaCE degrees? Not that he's interested in that, but I'm certainly curious.
lombofr: How will the prepaid college program fit in terms of taking classes at more than one institution?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Good question. The reason why no other Business majors are available in the
PaCE program is because there is simply not enough room in the upper-division major courses for those
majors. We are struggling even now to find enough seats for students who need the upper-level courses to
graduate in those majors. The beauty of the BABA degree is that once the common Tracking and Core courses
are completed, students then branch out into their various Areas of Specialization for their upper-division
courses.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @lombofr, my understanding is that it is possible to split prepaid and financial
aid between two institutions, but I am not sure about the nuances there. For more information about how it
works, you would want to speak to a Financial Aid Counselor.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): A good place to start for financial aid/prepaid questions would be OneStop:
http://handbook.ufonline.ufl.edu/onestop/
kfilson: With the struggle to find seats, and how sought after this institution is, aren't there any plans to
actually build, have trailers, anything? Is it a land issue? Seems like an obvious solution but in today's economy,
is that just not feasible? Is the online route just the more affordable route? Sorry if this is a broken record. I'm
just now entering the "college in Florida" arena.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @kfilson, did I answer your question about Marketing? The idea is that UF was
already maxed out in certain majors, so when they proposed admitting 3,000 more students, the Colleges were
asked to submit the majors that had room for more students. Within the College of Business, BABA was the
only major that had room to admit more students. And the reason for that is not for lack of desire; it is simply
because of how many options students have for the Areas of Specialization.
kfilson: That answer is better:) Thank you.
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pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): The struggle to find seats in the upper-division courses for Marketing, Finance,
etc. is due to not having enough faculty to teach that many students at the upper-level. The upper-level
courses are much smaller (typically 45 seats max), so there are only so many students who can be taking those
courses in a given semester.
lombofr: Can they study business administration and then change to finance or do a double major BA / FIN?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @lombofr, that is not an option for students in the PaCE Program for the same
reason it is not an option initially - lack of space. If students want to change to Finance, they would have to
apply to UF again as an upper-division transfer student (after completing the AA and with a highly competitive
GPA), but admission is not guaranteed as spots are so limited.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Just to put something into perspective, all Business degrees are 120 credits.
Only about 16 of those credits make up the specific major. In other words, the difference between a General
Studies degree and a Finance degree is about 4 courses. There is not a whole lot of variation between all the
degrees, and outside of academics, all Business majors at UF are required to either complete an internship or
study abroad, making their experience unique and their resume stand out.
kfilson: That is a great synopsis. Glad you added that perspective. Thanks.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): You're welcome!
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): I think that the PaCE Program is a great option for students who want a
Business degree from UF and who are open to using the first year or two of college to travel, work, do
internships, help out at home, mature, etc. There are many reasons why a student would not want to jump
right into going away to college, and even if they are ready, the PaCE Program gives them an opportunity to be
flexible that they may not have had before.
kfilson: With the higher number of Tracking courses for BABA, isn't it highly likely that coming to campus may
be Spring 2016 or later? At first, we thought, oh, he'll have so many credits already from his AP classes that he
may even be able to get to campus in Fall of 2016, but then you showed me the list of classes needed before
transitioning. That was helpful but also sobering to think that he may not get where he wants to go as quickly.
Any input on this topic?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Great topic to bring up. The Tracking courses for the Business degree are hefty.
We typically recommend that students take four semesters to complete all of them. Of course, PaCE students
are probably interested in speeding up that process, and will therefore push the limit of how many they take at
once and also take summer courses to get them done quickly.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): How quickly a student can complete them will depend on whether they are
bringing in any credit for Tracking courses from high school as well.
lombofr: The study abroad sounds very interesting. Are there agreements with universities outside of the US
and UF? Can it be done in the PACE program?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): I am going to refer you all back to the Tracking page on our website for a
minute so everyone knows what we are talking about:
http://warrington.ufl.edu/undergraduate/myheavener/tracking.asp
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Please note the second chart that explains the Tracking Timeline and GPA
Requirements. You can see that 1 Tracking course is recommended in the first semester, and then 2 Tracking
courses are recommended in the next three semesters.
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kfilson: The tracking courses are more business specific, aren't they? Highly doubtful they've had them in high
school yet...AP courses only suffice, correct? So microeconomics and stats are AP classes, so hopefully two
could be 'crossed off the list'.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): The most common courses that are taken during high school are Micro and/or
Macroeconomics, Stats, and Calculus.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @lombofr, study abroad is a great opportunity for Business Gators!
kfilson: But AP only?
Teremuniz: an AP credit in Calculus could eliminate one of the tracking courses?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): In fact, about 40% of our Business students study abroad compared to only 3%
University-wide. We have our own in-house Business Study Abroad Advisors to help students make it happen.
And we do have many agreements with Universities around the world.
kfilson: My son's friend received a letter that his acceptance was denied but if he goes to Santa Fe, then he can
transfer in. Is that part of another program?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @kfilson, not just AP/IB. Sometimes students have taken courses at other
colleges through dual enrollment.
kfilson: They would take on-line courses abroad?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @teremuniz, that is correct! I am not sure what the AP score requirement is,
but someone in Admissions can help you figure that out. It may even be somewhere on the UF website.
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Hi Students and families we have about 10 minutes left on the chat this
evening. The Chat transcripts will be posted at http://www.advising.ufl.edu/pace-pathways-to-campusenrollment but please feel free to email or contact us with any additional questions after the chat
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): It sounds like the Santa Fe program is different. I am not familiar with it. But
many students transfer to UF from Santa Fe.
Teremuniz: You need a three or higher for the credit just checked the website, thank you
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Most of the time, students take one or two courses online through UF while
abroad, in addition to taking courses at the University abroad.
kfilson: And those university courses would transfer then?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @teremuniz, you're welcome!
kfilson: How many Santa Fe transfers 'get in' the BABA program on campus? Is that a frequent occurrence?
kfilson: Isn't it harder to transfer in?
kfilson: Oh, yes, have you offered a link to see a sample business class online?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Yes, students work very closely with Study Abroad Advisors before they go
abroad to make sure they are taking courses abroad that will transfer in.
kfilson: Scary to go anywhere abroad these days, I would think. I think it's scary to go to Disney World with
terrorist threats. Sorry to be the downer:(
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): I unfortunately do not know how many students get in to the BABA program
from Santa Fe.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): The risk with going to another school with the intention of transferring in is
that it is never guaranteed that you will get in as a transfer student.
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lombofr: Are most credits abroad taken in the second two years (degree requirements in the old days) or can
they be taken in the first two years (core requirements)?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): I have not yet figured out how to show you what an online business class looks
like. Thank you for reminding me and I will follow up to see if I'm able to share something like that.
kfilson: Hopefully we kept you company here tonight and that others can learn from our back and forth.
kfilson: I couldn't stand for you to not get questions, can you tell?
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): Credits abroad can be done either way (core or major requirements), but I
would say I most often see it done in the 2nd and 3rd year, so a combination of major and core courses.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): If we get cut off tonight, I would like to thank you all for joining tonight!
kfilson: I notice that my son is more and more comfortable wearing his Gator sweatshirt to high school.
Perhaps this program is growing on him and he knows how lucky he is to have been accepted even if it is the
'back door' to UF.
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): @kfilson, I appreciate your questions!
pacechatmoderator(BA_Leigh): And I am happy to hear he is getting comfortable wearing his Gator sweatshirt
:)
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Talk with academic advisors, faculty and staff while learning more about UF's PaCE program. This chat is for
newly admitted PaCE students and family members. Academic Advisors will be available to answer questions in
college specific chat rooms.
Health and Human Performance
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Good evening! Owen, from Health and Human Performance, will be
joining in around 8pm tonight
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): If there are any HHP (Sport Man, Health Education, Tourism, Event and
Recreation Management) questions, let me know.
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): mguzman - yes, we're fine with student taking science/lab courses (A&P I and
II, Biology, Chem, Physics, etc) transient at a local (to the student) college.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Owen, can you address mguzman's question from the main lobby in
here?
us12356: Do HHP students have an opportunity to help with events on campus before or after transitioning
from PaCE; or are there opportunities?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): us12356, HHP students are able to earn credit for volunteer work in-field.
For example, students often work game days with UAA or work events at the O'Connell center.
us12356: Are they able to do this as PaCE students?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): us12356, absolutely.
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): us12356, opportunities tend to be in fairly high-demand, so selection can
become competitive.
us12356: What types of volunteer jobs are availible?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): These are all good sites to explore what's available http://recsports.ufl.edu/, http://oconnellcenter.ufl.edu/, http://www.sfa.ufl.edu/programs/employment/,
http://gatorzone.hirecentric.com/jobs/
mguzman: Can critical tracking courses fulfill the prerequisites for DPT grad school? I think
Anatomy/physiology/gen. psychology/statistics are the same courses required but not sure about biology.
Also, will DPT program accept psychology/statistics if they are taken online or does my daughter have to take
this at community college to get credit.
smourad1: Do you think that a switch from Health Education and Behavior on PaCE to Health Sciences once on
campus would be a doable switch?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): The graduate program defines their prerequisites. With that said, yes, a
course that is a tracking course for HEB (example) could also meets a prerequsite for a graduate program.
Science courses that require a lab are the courses best taken in a face-to-face environment; others tend to be
fine.
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): The Health Science program is not in the College of HHP. As a result, I cannot
really speak to their requirements for a change of major.
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): For more Health Science information - http://bhs.phhp.ufl.edu/
us12356: How many PaCe students do you anticipate in HHP as a guess?
mguzman: Do you have a pre health advisor there to answer that DPT prerequisite question or there or should
I switch to Lobby?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): We really have no idea. ~100 freshman applicants who identified a HHP
major were offered pace. Additionally, there were another freshman applicants offered PaCE who are
"exploratory", ~500, so we really cannot say.
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pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): *other, not "another"
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): mguzman, the PreHealth adviser is in the Lobby I believe.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): We have a pre-health room, come on over! :)
Knl1116: So does that mean that most HHP majors were offered regular admission rather than PaCE, if they
had been considered for PaCE?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): Knl1116, it's proportional. My guess is a similar percentage of the total pool
freshman applicants across majors were offered PaCE.
smourad1: In the HEB major would science courses be able to wait until the transition to campus for a
traditional lab experience or not?
Knl1116: Does the fact that I applied exploratory rather than biology or psychology mean that I probably would
have been offered regular admission rather than PaCE? As I have read that any other year, the PaCE admitted
students would have simply been offered regular admission
us12356: Do you know if PaCE student ID cards will be like campus enrolled ID cards; will there be photo's
required?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): smourad1, the science courses are lower-division tracking courses (first 60
hours) and would not be able to be deferred.
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): Knl1116, that's a question better posed in the Lobby. Someone from
Admissions would be able to address.
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): PaCE ID cards will require a photo. This can be done on campus or a pic can
be sent in.
us12356: Are they similar to campus ID cards?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): No, the PaCE ID cards will look different. These cards also act as RTS (bus)
tickets. Since PaCE students will not pay transportation fees, the drivers need to be able to differentiate
students, thus the cards look different.
us12356: IsHUM 2305 What is the Good Life (GE-H) required of all students?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): Yes, HUM2305 is required of all students.
us12356: Thank you for all of your help Owen!
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): My pleasure
us12356: Well, since you are here.. how is the credit applied for doing work-in-field?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): us12356, students register for a "practicum" course the same term as the
volunteer work is completed. Students can earn a max of 3 credit hours for any one experience, up to
maximum of 5 credit hours.
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): The Practicum requires a mid-term and end-of-term evaluation by the
student.
us12356: So living near campus might is an advantage?
us12356: Sorry, might be an advantage?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): Possibly. Though most students are not permitted to participate in a
practicum until they are upper-division students. The idea is that students use their course knowledge in their
experience. Students can certainly volunteer without earning credit.
NorthStar: Will pace students who live near campus be able to participate in campus activities such as clubs,
football games etc...and use library and campus facilities?
smourad1: This may have been asked already, but does college of HHP allow for science pre-reqs done at Santa
Fe as a transient student if the situation calls for it?
Health and Human Performance
UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): NorthStar, PaCE students may participate in clubs, access the library, etc.
PaCE students would not have access to the Rec facilities unless they pay an additional membership fee. PaCE
students may certainly attend UF games, but are not eligible for student tickets.
http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/ugrad/pacefaq.html
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): smourad1, yes the lower-division science tracking courses could be taken
transient (Santa Fe, etc.)
NorthStar: Thank you!
us12356: Thanks again and good night
smourad1: how do you know if a science is lower-division or higher-division?
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): My pleasure
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): If the course is required to be completed during the first 60 hours, it's lowerdivision. HEB does not have any upper-division science requirements.
https://catalog.ufl.edu/ugrad/current/health/majors/health-education-and-behavior-online.aspx all science
courses are required in the first four semesters.
smourad1: Thanks so much!
pacechatmoderator(HHP_Owen): You're very welcome!
Health and Human Performance
UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
Talk with academic advisors, faculty and staff while learning more about UF's PaCE program. This chat is for
newly admitted PaCE students and family members. Academic Advisors will be available to answer questions in
college specific chat rooms.
Liberal Arts and Sciences
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): Welcome to the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences chat room!
jgordon0702: Hello, I was accepted to the PaCE program and I have a few questions. I wanted to know if it
would be possible to start PaCE in the summer of 2015?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): jgordon0702, PaCE does not begin until Fall. UF won't really have all the
online classes you'll need this summer since this is a new program.
jgordon0702: Alright thank you, I also was curious if I was still on a waiting list for on-campus admission for Fall
2015. I have improved mySAT scores and GPA significantly and wanted to know if I should update my
application.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): You would have to check with admissions at [email protected] to see if
there is any possibility of starting on campus in the fall.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): jgordon, UF does not have a waiting list. We never had. We admit enough
students to yield a full freshman class each summer/fall.
jgordon0702: Okay. also when and how will I know how many AP and IB credits I will have received prior to
PaCE?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): jgordon, UF grants AP and IB credits based on equivalencies determined by
the State of Florida. They have recently been updated, so the newest equivalencies won't be available til May
1.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): but you can get an idea of what you get credit for based on the exam and
score by looking at: https://catalog.ufl.edu/ugrad/current/advising/info/AP-examination-credit-info.aspx and
https://catalog.ufl.edu/ugrad/current/advising/info/AP-examination-credit-info.aspx
jgordon0702: Great.I noticed that the PACE brochure referred to both online and campus based study. What
percentage would be campus based and how would that work? I presently live in Miami.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): jgordon...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): That depends alot on your individual situation. You must take at least 15
hours in UFOnline. For CLAS students, we will most likely want you to take any major courses online. If
something is not offered in UFonline and makes sense for you and your goals, you can be approved to be a
transient student at another institution while in PaCE
jgordon0702: I guess I was trying to find out if it was mandatory to come on the campus at any time during
PACE?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): jgordon, no it is not mandatory, the idea is that it is all online.
jgordon0702: 60 credits equals approximately 20 courses ? Is that correct?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Most courses are 3 credits, so yes..
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): what major(s) are you considering, jgordon?
jgordon0702: What is the deadline for accepting PACE?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): May 1.
jgordon0702: I am considering physics or psychology, however I'm mostly undecided
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): jgordon, that's fine. Keep in mind that psychology is NOT a PaCE major. It is a
UFOnline major - if you chose that, you'd spend 4 years in UFOnline and not transition to campus.
Liberal Arts and Sciences
UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Ont the other hand, if you choose a PaCE major and meet the requirements
and transition to campus, there is the possibility of double majoring in Psychology. For all students (even those
who start on campus), there are high standards to be allowed a double major.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): jgordon...Easy to get confused on that point! When we refer to UF Online
majors, those are fully online, 4 years. PaCE majors are the ones where you transitional to residential.
jgordon0702: Alright, thank you!
raysianvista: Hi, I was wondering about the science portion of PaCE. I was hoping to study engineering in the
college of engineering, but I'm not sure whether that is possible through PaCE
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): raysianvista...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): As you know, Engineering majors are not a part of PaCE. If you chose to do
PaCE, you would need to select another major in order to progress toward THAT degree and transition to
campus.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): raysianvista, so PaCE is probably NOT a great fit if you are sure about
Engineering.
raysianvista: Some of the classes taken during the first two semesters of the physics major correspond to the
classes in the engineering program. If I take these classes on PaCE, will credit for those classes be
transferrable?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): raysianvista, since Engineering is NOT participating in PaCE you would need to
contact them to find out if they would consider you for transfer admission to EG. I'll get you some contact
info...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): https://www.eng.ufl.edu/students/students/prospective-students/transferstudents/
raysianvista: Thank you so much! and just to clarify, it would be fine if I did the PaCE program while living offcampus, right?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Meredith): absolutely!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): raysianvista, yes, you can move to Gainesville and live off-campus while in
PaCe
raysianvista: My parents have a question. They didn't realize they didn't pay the $25 that reserves a spot for
housing, would that be a reason why I was accepted into the PaCE program?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): raysianvista...
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): I'm not sure what you are asking...The PaCE program is designed to increase
access to the University of Florida. Our residential freshman class will be roughly the same size it was last year,
but PaCE is an effort to recognize that there are so many talented applicants that can benefit from UF beyond
those that can be admitted as residential freshmen
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): The $25 housing deposit has nothing to do with admissions decisions.
raysianvista: Ok, they were just wondering about that. Thank you for clarifying that and all the other questions!
raysianvista: It was really helpful!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Joe): Tell your parents to ask any other questions they have!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): yes, our whole idea is to be as helpful as possible.
raysianvista: They don't have any more questions :) Once again, thank you so much!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): You are very welcome!
Liberal Arts and Sciences
UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
raysianvista: One last question, if I decide to do the PaCE program, will I be able to apply to the honor's
college?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): raysianvista, I don't believe so, but you can check with them at
www.honors.ufl.edu. Keep in mind you can graduate with honors in your major without being in the Honors
program.
raysianvista: Ok, thank you!
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Again, you are welcome :-)
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Hi Students and families we have about 10 minutes left on the chat this
evening. The Chat transcripts will be posted at http://www.advising.ufl.edu/pace-pathways-to-campusenrollment but please feel free to email or contact us with any additional questions after the chat
Liberal Arts and Sciences
UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
Talk with academic advisors, faculty and staff while learning more about UF's PaCE program. This chat is for
newly admitted PaCE students and family members. Academic Advisors will be available to answer questions in
college specific chat rooms.
Pre-Health
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Welcome to the Pre-Health chat room!
clairebrown: Hello! Thank you for hosting these sessions! My name is Claire Brown. I was wondering if the PA
program at UF accepts PaCE credits?
msihachak: Hello! My name is Matt Sihachak. I have read multiple times that PaCE is not recommended for
students pursuing professions in the medical field. I was hoping that I could get more information about how a
PaCE student would pursue medical degrees.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Good question. The PA program at UF may accept some online prerequisite courses on a case by case basis. I would check with them directly if you have a question about a
particular pre-requisite. They will certainly accept online electives, gen ed courses, etc.
clairebrown: Are PA programs similar to Med schools with their policies with online credits? Most Med schools
don't accept online credits, are PA programs the same?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): msihachak, as you've probably read most medical, dental and vet schools
don't accept online classes.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Hi Mshihachak, that's right, we don't necessarily recommend PaCE
for students who know they want to go to medical school. The main reason is because a majority of medical
schools do not accept online courses for pre-requisites. Therefore, we wouldn't recommend taking courses like
Chemistry or Biology through UF Online. It is possible to take some of the courses at UF once you transition to
campus, but that will be different for every student. For some students it would mean that they don't have
enough time to finish the pre-requisites before graduating.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Clairebrown, PA programs vary a bit more than the medical schools.
More PA programs will accept online courses. The majority of medical schools do not. In fact last year, out of
over 330 students who went to MD programs, only 2 were accepted to schools that accept online courses.
clairebrown: Okay, thank you.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): If you are considering PA, you should check carefully with programs
you are interested in to see if they accept online courses before taking any.
msihachak: On the FAQ page for PaCE, it says that we need to apply for a transfer to pursue a non PaCE majors.
Are the transfers guaranteed or would I have a chance of being stuck in the PaCE microbiology and cell biology
major?
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Transfer is not guaranteed. There is the possibility of having to
continue in Microbiology if you are not admitted to the other major.
msihachak: Since many med schools don't take online courses as prerequisites, would that mean I can only
take electives during my first year of PaCE?
Pre-Health
UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): That depends. You would be able to take general education courses
if you need them, like humanities and social sciences. If you are in a non-science major you would likely take
required courses for your major. Some students may choose to take some of the science courses as a transient
student at another university, but that would require approval from your college. If you choose to do that, we
strongly recommend taking any medical school pre-reqs at the university level.
msihachak: If I choose not to be a transient student, would I most likely not be able to complete all my prereqs
by the end of my senior year?
clairebrown: If I were to take my pre-reqs at another school as well as take other classes at PaCE to meet the
15 credit requirement, would I run into excess hours?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): PreHealth_Christine: msihachak] It depends on when you transition to
campus. If you meet the requirements for transition after two semesters, you could likely finish all of the
prereqs by your senior year (depends a bit on math placement). If you transition after two years and haven't
started any of the prereqs, you may not be able to get through them all. Delaying the prereqs may also result
in having a gap year before starting medical school, but the majority of students do and it's not a negative thing
at all.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): clairebrown, that is a concern. It all depends on how many credits
you take. Students who do a lot of summer credits or heavy course loads each semester can hit the excess
hour limit.
msihachak: I am currently an IB program student and I am confused about how high school credits translate
into credit hours. If I get 1 credit for an IB/AP course, would this translate into 1 university credit hour?
clairebrown: So, if I took all my sciences at the community college near my home and took other courses like
history, and math online, would I be considered a transfer student? How does this work out?
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): msihachak, we use equivalencies determined by the state of Florida
to determine what credits you get base on your IB scores. There will be some changes this year so the new
equivalencies will be available May 1.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): clairebrown, you would not be a transfer student as long as you
meet the requirements of PaCE to transition into a PaCE major.
msihachak: So am I able to take the available prereqs at the Santa Fe community college as well as online PaCE
courses and not have to reapply as a transfer student to UF?
clairebrown: But I'm only accepted into the major I choose on PaCE, so if I did Microbiology as my major online,
and only took math, history, social sciences, etc. on there and my science pre-reqs at another school, how does
that work out? Can I be a Microbiology major while only taking math, etc. on PaCE?
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): It's possible if your college approves it. Keep in mind most
professional schools, particularly medical schools, prefer prereqs to be taken at the university level.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): clairebrown, if you choose Microbiology, you would have to take the
science prerequisites for the major before transitioning to campus. The microbiology major in PaCE is a good
choice if you want to pursue another career, but if you are prehealth it would mean taking those courses as a
transient student if that college allows it, or taking them through UFOnline which we don't recommend since
so many schools do not accept online courses.
msihachak: It seems like PaCE does not fit pre med students. Why were students that checked a health or
science related major on their applications admitted to PaCE if we don't fit?
Pre-Health
UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): That's correct, it may not be the best fit for premed students. We
know, however, that many incoming students change their minds about wanting to pursue pre-health, so we
did not want to penalize a student just for indicating an interest in pre-health.
msihachak: So if I am unable to transition onto campus by my sophomore year, will I be most likely unable to
complete prereqs by my senior year and have to take a 5 or maybe 6 year undergraduate course?
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): msihachak, it's possible that it may take longer than two more years.
It will depend on many factors such as your math background, whether you take courses each summer, and
how much room you have in your schedule (your major courses would need to take priority).
clairebrown: I'm confused as to how to make this PaCE program work.
msihachak: I am too...
clairebrown: I like the idea of taking my sciences at a community college so that I don't run into the issue with
Med schools and PA programs of online credits, but I don't know how to coordinate it.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Unfortunately it may not be the best choice for pre-health students.
Feel free to email us at [email protected] if you'd like to go a bit more in depth with your specific
situations.
msihachak: Can we appeal our placement into PaCE?
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): msihachak, that is a decision for the Admissions Office.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): clairebrown, keep in mind that most medical schools, and some PA
schools, prefer that you take the courses at the university level. It makes your application more competitive. If
you are thinking of taking them elsewhere, they'd recommend a university (UCF, USF, FIU, etc) if possible.
clairebrown: Would I get a discount on tuition if I'm only taking math and other courses not related to science
on PaCE?
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Tuition is the same for all courses.
mguzman: Hi Christine, we're interested in BS HEALTH EDUCATION which already has a lot of prerequisites for
DPT grad school (such as PSYCH,STATISTICS,ANATOMY,PHYSIOLOGY, in first 4 semesters. Do we have to take all
those prerequisites at a community college in order to get credit., or just science courses with lab (such as
ANATOMY/PHYSIOLOGY)? Owen fr HHS stated that we can take science critical tracking course at a community
college.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): As long as that college (HHP) approves it, you can take the courses
as a transient student. Keep in mind some PT schools (certainly not all) may prefer to see those courses taken
at the university level, so if you are able to do any of them after transitioning to UF we would recommend that.
Some PT schools also accept online courses, so it might be worth checking the programs you are interested in
to see if that's a possibility too.
mguzman: Thanks you Christine! That certainly opens up more options for going to DPT grad school. We are
debating on BS HEALTH EDUCATION or BS NUTRITIONAL SCIENCE . We will pick the one that has less science
prerequisites on 1st 60 credits so the rest of the prerequisites can be taken after transitioning to UF on campus
. Any idea which degree/track is more suited for this?
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): mguzman, I would check with each college, but most likely Health Ed
would have fewer PT prereqs prior to transitioning to campus. There is no preferred major, but those two are
quite different. I suggest looking at the full curriculum for each in the UF catalog.
Obrafour44: Is it possible while doing PaCE to take some of your science prerequisites at Santa Fe?
Pre-Health
UF PaCE Academic Information Chat
February 25, 2015
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Obrafour44, if your college approves it, yes, you could. Keep in mind
that many professional schools prefer university level coursework, particularly medical schools, so your
application may not be as competitive. We usually recommend supplementing state college coursework with
upper-level courses at UF. This recommendation varies by profession.
Obrafour44: So if you were interested in dentistry, for example, what would be a recommended route through
PaCE if there is one? I understand that PaCE might not be the best for pre-health.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Obrafour, That depends on when you may transition to be a
residential student. If you are able to transition after one year, you could wait to start the pre-requisite courses
until you get to campus. If it will be two years before you transition, you would likely want to take some of the
first pre-requisite courses like Chemistry and Biology at another university as a transient student and then
finish the rest once you transition to be a residential UF student. It also depends on things like what math and
chemistry courses you place in. If you place in lower level courses, you could do those through UF Online.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Thank you for all of the great questions tonight. We have about 10
minutes left. Does anyone have more questions I can answer?
ron6791: Can a student enroll in PACE for the fall and take classes at UCF to fulfill some prehealth sciences?
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Yes, as long as your college approves of the transient coursework
that is fine. It won't count towards the 15 required hours of UF Online courses, but it will go towards the 60
total hours that are required.
familychatadministrator(NSFP_Jaime): Hi Students and families we have about 10 minutes left on the chat this
evening. The Chat transcripts will be posted at http://www.advising.ufl.edu/pace-pathways-to-campusenrollment but please feel free to email or contact us with any additional questions after the chat
Surfers4: Could you explain what a transient student is. Do they apply to another University, get accepted then
just take classes with the full knowledge they are only taking classes to fulfill UF's requirements?
ron6791: What is the best course for someone strongly interested in prehealth and UF?
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): surfers, yes, a transient student is a student who is degree seeking
at another university. So a UF student who takes courses at UCF for a semester would be a transient student
because they intend to transfer those credits to UF towards their degree.
pacechatmoderator(CLAS_Lynn): Surfers4, these student actually get approved by both schools to do the
transient coursework.
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): ron6791, for PaCE that depends on when you may transition to be a
residential student. If you are able to transition after one year, you could wait to start the pre-requisite courses
until you get to campus. If it will be two years before you transition, you would likely want to take some of the
first pre-requisite courses like Chemistry and Biology at another university as a transient student and then
finish the rest once you transition to be a residential UF student. It also depends on things like what math and
chemistry courses you place in. If you place in lower level courses, you could do those through UF Online.
Another option would be to start at another university and apply to UF as a transfer student.</
pacechatmoderator(PreHealth_Christine): Thank you for your questions. Feel free to email us at
[email protected] with any more!
Pre-Health