What’s a Roth recharacterization? Rebecca Katz: Please explain Roth recharacterization? Is this the “Oopsie, I converted and I shouldn’t have done that”? Maria Bruno: Yes, but it’s not always an oopsie. It could be a very viable strategy that someone is employing. Actually, we’re having these conversations right now because at the end of last year there’s a lot of uncertainty around what would happen with 2013 tax rates. So some investors, actually, decided they would convert and then maybe decide to recharacterize later. So what a recharacterization is, it’s really almost a mulligan; the IRS lets us do a do-over. So, if you contribute, if you convert to a Roth IRA, or even if you contribute to a Roth IRA and then decide that you want to reverse that, the IRS allows you to do that. Meet the speakers Rebecca Katz Moderator Now, there are some stipulations, there’s time, there’s holding-period requirements. So, if you converted last year, for instance, and you want to recharacterize this year, you have until, essentially, October 15 to do that. So it’s a tax-filing deadline or a tax extension. So you can convert them. Basically, what it does is, it takes whatever, whether it’s a partial recharacterization or a full recharacterization, brings that back into a traditional IRA. So any earnings or losses would be carried back over into that traditional IRA. The end result is as if the conversion never happened or the Roth contribution never happened. Joel Dickson: Where this can be valuable is, for example, although this is not as likely this year given that we’ve had pretty robust financial market returns, but let’s take that 100,000 dollars that we had been talking about earlier and you converted that from a traditional to a Roth IRA. Let’s assume that it was fully taxable, so it was all 100,000 dollars of pre-tax dollars. If the investment that you put it into in the Roth IRA were to have gone from 100,000 to 80,000, declined 20 percent; sort of go, “Well, why should I pay taxes on 100,000 dollars when right now the account is worth 80,000 dollars?” So recharacterizing back to the traditional IRA, where now you have 80,000 dollars, and then once you get over the certain requirements to then do a reconversion, which, basically, is either 30 days following the recharacterization or the next tax year—it sort of depends on where you are in the tax cycle—you would now just reconvert 80,000 dollars and pay tax on 80,000 instead of paying tax on 100,000 if you wouldn’t have recharacterized. Rebecca Katz: Assuming the markets didn’t go back up. Maria Bruno: So there’s holding periods, so you’re kind of at the mercy of the markets it’s almost depending on how you’re invested. You can actually put the monies back into the traditional IRA and keep it there, or you can actually reconvert after the holding period expires. (continued on next page) Maria Bruno Vanguard Investment Strategy Group Joel Dickson Vanguard Investment Strategy Group Joel Dickson: One of the things that I do think we have to be careful about in 2013, because Maria mentioned there was a lot of uncertainty about tax rates—we have the fiscal cliff, all that kind of stuff—for some people, tax rates increased in 2013 from where they were in 2012, either through all of the deductions changing, or through the Medicare, or through ordinary income tax rates. So even if the account went down in terms of the value of the conversion from a traditional to a Roth, it might not make sense to recharacterize because now you would be reconverting in 2013 or 2014 at potentially higher tax rates. And so what matters is the total tax bill, not so much the amount in the account. Vanguard Financial Advisor Services™ All investing is subject to risk, including the possible loss of the money you invest. Withdrawals from a Roth IRA are tax free if you are over age 59 1/2 and have held the account for at least five years; withdrawals taken prior to age 59 1/2 or five years may be subject to ordinary income tax or a 10% federal penalty tax or both. This webcast is for educational purposes only. We recommend that you consult a tax or financial advisor about your individual situation. P.O. Box 2900 Valley Forge, PA 19482-2900 © 2013 The Vanguard Group, Inc. All rights reserved. ROTHTR5 122013
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