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Red kite with broken wing, waiting for a slow death under a wind turbine – courtesy of GURELUR*.
HOW MUCH WILDLIFE CAN USA AFFORD TO KILL?
APRIL 2014
America’s wind farms are actually slaughtering millions of birds and bats annually
By Mark Duchamp
Originally published by The ECO Report
The Obama administration is issuing 30-year permits for “taking” (killing) bald and golden eagles. The great birds will be legally slaughtered
“unintentionally” by lethal wind turbines installed in their breeding territories, and in “dispersion areas” where their young congregate (e.g.
Altamont Pass).
By chance (if you believe in coincidences), a timely government study claims wind farms will kill “only” 1.4 million birds yearly by 2030 (1).
This new report is just one of many, financed with taxpayers’ money, aimed at convincing the public that additional mortality caused by wind
plants is sustainable. – It is not.
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Dr. Shawn Smallwood’s 2004 study, spanning four years, estimated that California’s Altamont Pass wind “farm” killed an average of 116
Golden Eagles annually (2). This adds up to 2,900 dead “goldies” since it was built 25 years ago. Altamont is the biggest sinkhole for the
species, but not the only one, and industry-financed research claiming that California’s GE population is stable is but a white-wash.
Golden eagle remains, Altamont Pass windfarm, California – courtesy of Darryl Mueller
Eagles are not the only victims. Smallwood also estimated that Altamont killed an average of 300 red-tailed hawks, 333 American kestrels and
380 burrowing owls annually – plus even more non-raptors, including 2,526 rock doves and 2,557 western meadowlarks.
In 2012, breaking the European omerta on wind farm mortality, the Spanish Ornithological Society (SEO/Birdlife) reviewed actual carcass
counts from 136 monitoring studies. They concluded that Spain’s 18,000 wind turbines are killing 6-18 million birds and bats yearly (3).
Extrapolating that and similar (little publicized) German and Swedish studies, 39,000 U.S. wind turbines would not be killing “only” 440,000
birds (USFWS, 2009) or “just” 573,000 birds and 888,000 bats (Smallwood, 2013) (4), but 13-39 million birds and bats every year!
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However, this carnage is being covered up by self-serving and/or politically motivated government agencies, wind industry lobbyists,
environmental groups and ornithologists, under a pile of misleading studies paid for with more taxpayer money.
Wildlife expert Jim Wiegand has documented how areas searched under wind turbines are still confined to 200-foot radiuses, even though
modern monster turbines catapult 90% of bird and bat carcasses much further. Windfarm owners, operating under voluntary(!) USFWS
guidelines, commission studies that search much-too-small areas, look only once every 30-90 days, ensuring that scavengers remove most
carcasses, and ignore wounded birds that happen to be found within search perimeters (5).
These research protocols are designed to guarantee extremely low mortality statistics, hiding the true death tolls – and the USFWS seems
inclined to let the deception continue. In addition, bird mortality data are now considered to be the property of windfarm owners, which means
the public no longer has a right to know.
Nevertheless, news has leaked that eagles are being hacked to death all across America. This is hardly surprising, as raptors are attracted to
wind turbines. They perch on them to rest or scan for prey. They come because turbines are often built in habitats that have abundant food
(live or carrion) and good winds for gliding (6).
Save the Eagles International (STEI) has posted photographs of raptors perched on nacelles or nonmoving blades, and ospreys building a nest
on a decommissioned turbine. Moving blades don’t deter them either: videos show a turkey vulture perched on the hub of a spinning turbine,
and a griffon vulture being struck (6). Birds perceive areas traveled by spinning blades as open space, unaware that blade tips are moving at up
to 180 mph. Many are focused on prey. These factors make wind turbines “ecological death traps,” wherever they are located.
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Courtesy of Jefferson’s Leaning Left blog
By 2030, the United States plans to produce 20% of its electricity from wind. That’s nearly six times as much as today, from three or four times
as many turbines, striking more flying creatures due to their bigger size (even the mendacious study predicting 1.4 million bird kills recognizes
this). Using the higher but still underestimated level of mortality published by Smallwood in 2013, by 2030 our wind turbines would be killing
over 3 million birds and 5 million bats annually.
But this is shy of reality by a factor of ten, because 90% of casualties land outside the search perimeter and are not counted. We are thus really
talking about an unsustainable death toll of 30 million birds and 50 million bats a year – and more still if we factor in other hide-themortality tricks documented by STEI.
This carnage includes protected species that cars and cats rarely kill: eagles, hawks, falcons, owls, condors, whooping cranes, geese, bats and
many others. The raptor slaughter will cause rodent populations to soar. Butchery of bats (7), already being decimated by White Nose
Syndrome (8), will hammer agriculture.
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Griffon vultures killed by wind turbine, Spain – courtesy of GURELUR*
The U.S. Geological Survey says the value of pest-control services to US agriculture provided by bats ranges from $3.7 billion to as much as
$53 billion yearly (9). These chiropters also control forest pests and serve as pollinators. Swedish studies have documented their attraction
from nine miles away to insects that swarm around wind turbines (10). Hence the slaughter.
Wind lobbyists claim they need “regulatory certainty.” However, eagle “take” permits will also ensure extinction certainty – and ecological,
agricultural, economic and social disasters that America cannot afford.
* GURELUR is an association of ecologists based in Pamplona, Navarre, Spain.
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Mark Duchamp is President of Save the Eagles International, and Chairman of the World Council for Nature
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References:
(1) – http://www.abcbirds.org/newsandreports/releases/131210a.html
(2) – Mortality at Altamont Pass wind farm: Chapter 3, Page 73, Table 3-11: Species/Taxonomic group: Golden eagle – Mortality per year:
adjusted for search detection: 75.6
adjusted for search detection and scavenging: 116.5
scroll down that last column to find the mortality for other species
Developing Methods to Reduce Bird Mortality in the Altamont Pass Wind Resource Area – Shawn Smallwood & Carl Thelander (2004) – for
the California Energy Commission.
http://www.energy.ca.gov/reports/500-04-052/500-04-052_03_CHAPTER-03.PDF
Full report page:
http://www.energy.ca.gov/pier/project_reports/500-04-052.html
(3) – Spanish Ornithological Society: Spain’s wind turbines kill 6 to 18 million birds and bats yearly: http://savetheeaglesinternational.org
/releases/spanish-wind-farms-kill-6-to-18-million-birds-bats-a-year.html
(4) – 573,000 birds and 888,000 bats killed by wind turbines in the US annually (Smallwood, 2013): http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002
/wsb.260/abstract
(5)- Over 90% of mortality not accounted for – wildlife expert Jim Wiegand:
– search areas are too small: http://www.masterresource.org/2013/03/wind-avian-mortality-ii/
– they miss 90% of the carcasses: http://www.masterresource.org/2013/09/hiding-avian-mortality-altamont-pass/
(6) – Pictures and videos of raptors attracted to wind farms: http://savetheeagles.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/raptors-attracted-to-windfarms-2/
(7) – “Official” estimate: University of Colorado study: wind farms kill 600,000 to 900,000 bats yearly: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology
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Real mortality, however, is likely to be at least 20 times higher.
(8) – White Nose Syndrome: http://www.whitenosesyndrome.org/news/north-american-bat-death-toll-exceeds-55-million-white-nose-syndrome
(9) – USGS: value of bats to agriculture: http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2743#.UqkJR7CA0qQ
(10) – Two Swedish studies:
- “We recorded 11 species (of bats) … flying over the ocean up to 14 km from the shore (to an offshore windfarm).” And: “… our data showing
that at least 10 species, both migratory and resident, regularly forage far out at sea are novel.” http://www2.ekol.slu.se/Personliga_filer/Ahlen
/JmammBatsatSeaDec09.pdf
- “The bats did not avoid the turbines. On the contrary they stayed for shorter or longer periods hunting close to the windmills because of the
accumulation of flying insects…. Bats also used wind turbines for resting.” http://www.naturvardsverket.se/Documents/publikationer
/620-5571-2.pdf
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Barry:
May 23, 2014 at 1:26 pm
Studies of turbines in USA states NJ and Delaware show each turbine killing 80 birds/bats per year. In PA they document that each
turbine kills 25 bats per year…they don’t sum up the number of birds. It is a travesty! The only way they are getting away with it….is
they hide the information. If you try to get fact on the number of kills in states like Mass. They don’t purposely don’t publish or study
bird and bat kills as they want the money to flow to the politically connected! This will shame environmentalist groups for the a long
time….that they are aiding and abetting one of the greatest slaughter of wild life since the mid-1800’s!
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Jokey:
April 8, 2015 at 4:23 pm
and who takes care of the billions of flies smashed on my car’s windscreen!!! Stop the windmills now – and let the power come out
of the plugs- it’s that easy!!!
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What...Really?:
June 18, 2015 at 4:40 am
“let the power come out of the plugs- it’s that easy!!!”??? WtF? Do you really think your outlets (which I assume you mean,
but call them “plugs”) supply you magical power? Just to inform you, that magical power comes from the burning of coal,
nuclear and in much smaller supplies of wind/solar. I may have missed a couple supplies but it doesn’t matter in making my
point. I think my small windows on my house kill more birds each year. I’ve discovered that they really don’t have much for
brains and will fly into anything. I’ll take the fresh air for me over them any day!!! Let’s roll with solar and wind power!!!!!
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Bruce Stewart:
June 19, 2015 at 8:46 pm
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Check with ERCOT. In Texas there is over 14,000MW of installed wind energy capacity, guess what was being generated at
noon today, 600MW. The wind companies say “We have enough capacity to power 100,000 homes”. Nope, on a good day
they can actually power 20,00 homes for a short time before gas and coal has to take over. These towers aren’t put up to
generate electricity or to help the environment, they are put up to save very large corporations taxes. Even Warren Buffet, a
major buyer of energy tax credits, says they don’t make sense except for the tax credits. Why do we want wind turbines? To
save the environment? Then they are a complete failure. Look at the whole picture. The roads built, the steel smelted, the
trucking of parts and cranes, the manufacture of millions of tons of concrete and re-bar, the land cleared of trees for
transmission lines. Are we putting them up to save wildlife? We are killing wildlife. Are we trying to lower the amount of
CO2? The lowering will be immeasurable. Land is heated behind the blades from the turbulence. Are they causing global
warming??? Land values of neighboring properties are destroyed.
These were started by Ken Lay and George H W Bush for tax write offs. Not by some tree hugging liberal.
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Rob:
November 14, 2015 at 7:41 pm
I call bs on the last part. If this were not caused by a tree hugging lib then their would be so much outrage they would
no longer be putting them up. Are you f-ing serious. This is green energy just as the libs want it.
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Chris Robinette:
July 28, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Let the wind turbine companies pay the fine for the killed eagles without jail time.
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John Bond:
July 28, 2015 at 6:08 pm
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Mark Duchamp:
July 30, 2015 at 2:13 pm
House cats don’t kill eagles, cranes, geese, hawks, falcons, California condors, etc. plus bats by the million.
Mark
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Diana:
August 26, 2015 at 3:32 am
This whole thing sounds like a bunch of liberal BS! I find it hard to believe that ANY bats die from the slow moving
blades of these generators! Anyone who studies bats can tell you they can turn in a split second. If you watch bats at
night catching mosquitos and had even half a brain you could figure this one out. I find it hard to believe there are any
more birds killed from these turbines than there are from car windshields, so let’s quit driving. Makes as much sense.
The highly inflated numbers these liberals are trying to get us to believe is from jet turbines perhaps, which are totally
different. Therefore, let us quit traveling by jets also. With BS like this going around, we can’t believe ANYTHING
that comes from stupid and ignorant people who just mimic other stupid and ignorant people out of Washington DC.
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Mark Duchamp:
August 28, 2015 at 4:36 am
Wind turbine blades appear to turn slowly, but at their tips, they reach speeds of 100 to 300 kmh (62 – 186
mph).
Calculate yourself: average 2 MW wind turbine –> blade length 50 m x 2 = diameter of 100 m x 3,14 =
circumference of 314 m x 16 revolutions per minute = 5024 m x 60 minutes = 301,440 m –> 301 kmh
Birds and bats are surprised by the blades: they too thought they were turning slowly.
Cars don’t kill many eagles. Wind turbines do.
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Dr. D.:
October 12, 2015 at 3:57 pm
Exactly Diana. I drive my truck past so many wind turbines in the Mid-west and most time they don’t even look
like they’re turning. How can a bird with ‘eagle eyes’ not be able to see and avoid the blades. No one has ever
give me a good answer for that, even though I’m sure many will try. They’ll try to tell me they turn faster than a
B-24 Liberator prop and I’m suppose to agree with them and not my own eyes. Give me a break And they are
keep harping on eagles, as if one who supports the Wind Energy, and since Wind turbines supposedly kill so
many eagles, then to support wind energy equals being unpatriotic. If there were studies showing they were
killing crows or disease carrying pigeons nobody would care so they keep bringing up eagles. Well sorry for the
eagles…but seriously, how they can spot mice from two miles away but can’t seem to see a wind turbine blade?
What gives? Then they like to claim that Wind turbines are the major bird killers. Hell, I’ve pulled no fewer than
four hen pheasants out of the front grill of my tractor trailer since June and countless sparrows and red-winged
blackbirds over the summer and I’m real sorry about it but I have to make a living. But if it happens to me, it
probably happening to thousands of other truckers and still nobody ever tried to shut down the trucking industry.
I just came here by accident and I’ll likely not be back so please don’t anyone write to argue my points or sway
my thinking cause I won’t be writing back. I’m just using some common sense and calling it the way I see it.
Mark Duchamp:
October 15, 2015 at 11:04 am
Dr.D. wrote: I drive my truck past so many wind turbines in the Mid-west and most time they don’t even look
like they’re turning.
– Right. It’s an intermittent energy depending upon the wind. In the absence of storage capacity for the
electricity they produce, in fact mostly at night (when not needed), their production is useless. It is exported at a
loss, or dumped into the ground, or the turbines are stopped and the owners receive a financial compensation
from the government.
Dr.D: How can a bird with ‘eagle eyes’ not be able to see and avoid the blades. No one has ever give me a good
answer for that.
– People too have eyes, yet they have numerous car accidents. How come? Can’t they see the other cars? Your
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reasoning is similar to this.
Dr.D: They’ll try to tell me they turn faster than a B-24 Liberator prop and I’m suppose to agree with them and
not my own eyes.
– At the tip of the blades, speed often reaches over 160 mph: take the diameter of the rotor (300-380 feet
depending on the model), multiply by 3.14, multiply by the highest number of revolutions per minute (18 – 24
depending on the model), multiply by 60 (minutes in one hour), that’ll give you the distance the tip of the blade
covers in one hour when the wind is blowing at optimum speed.
Dr.D: it probably happening to thousands of other truckers and still nobody ever tried to shut down the trucking
industry
– the trucking industry is vital to the economy, whereas wind turbines are not. In fact, they are useless. They are
a scam. See: http://www.iberica2000.org/Es/Articulo.asp?Id=4540
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Mjc capozzi:
February 7, 2015 at 10:13 pm
What can be done to stop this senseless killing
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Mark Duchamp:
February 11, 2015 at 2:51 am
You asked: what can be done to stop this senseless killing?
.Well, you can become a member of Save the Eagles International. It’s free of charge. Then,you can tell all your contacts about us,
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Unless people don’t know what’s really happening, nothing will change.
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filiberto bonaventura:
March 15, 2015 at 3:15 pm
Remedy: the wind turbines could produce their own sound, an ultrasound that would scare all birds in the
vicinity….any other question? i am also a scientist and a “spatial poet”and have an answer for just about any
scientific or practical problem…..cheers
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Valerie Reagor:
July 17, 2015 at 3:27 pm
Not a scientist here. New to topic. Ultrasound sounds like possibly a good idea. Also wondering if painting something like a life
sized eagle or something else on the ends of the blades could allow the birds some perspective of how fast the blades are actually
turning, if that would help them get out of the way before a death blow.
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C. Earl Jantzi:
March 16, 2015 at 1:03 am
Check out this article about how solar concentrator farms simply fry or vaporize birds. All this wildlife killed for the hoax that is global
warming. Google “crisy ducks, breitbart.com should find it. I have the address on a desktop, not this portable.
• IPCC official, Ottmar Edenhofer, speaking in November 2010: “But one must say clearly that we redistribute, de facto, the world’s
wealth by climate policy. … one has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. Instead,
climate change policy is about how we redistribute, de facto, the world’s wealth…” “This has almost nothing to do with environmental
policy, anymore.” http://www.nzzDOTch/aktuell/startseite/klimapolitik-verteilt-das-weltvermoegen-neu-1.8373227
22Jan2015”At a news conference [22Jan2015] in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on
Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity, but to destroy
capitalism. “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period
of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she
said. Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year,
she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic
development model for the first time in human history.”
Investor’s Business Daily: http://news.investors DOTcom/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroycapitalism.htm#ixzz3RXh5Tujn
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michelle madsen:
March 16, 2015 at 2:00 pm
People need to post links to this site everywhere. I have seen a new design for a verticle turbine which is enclosed in a type of cage. It
looks like a cylinder. The apparatus inside which are the turbines rotate horizontally, but have spokes that stand upright. These turbines
can be stacked within the cylinder. they have the technology to harvest wind without these impacts.
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Brenda Shumate:
March 17, 2015 at 9:05 pm
It is hard for me to swallow, how horrible the killing of so many wonderful birds, our Eagles and other creatures who are majestic. What
is wrong with people? They will do horrible things just to prove a point? And their point was lost by their being loony anyway.
STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING!
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Tricia Dixon:
May 20, 2015 at 2:04 am
This is disgusting I can’t believe they are doing this
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Griselda Hunt:
May 28, 2015 at 12:30 pm
Thank you for this vitally important article. Will try to send it all over.
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Kevin:
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June 19, 2015 at 3:41 am
So you delete my post that goes against your 100% GOP agenda. Thanks for letting me know who is running this BS organization. Do
you really think your oil and coal buddies are going to “SAVE” the Eagles? I love Eagles and will do anything possible to save
them…especially fighting you!
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Mark Duchamp:
July 16, 2015 at 11:58 am
I delete comments when they are offensive, contain bad language, and are stupid as well. I made an exception for yours this time
around. But don’t push your luck.
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gfsa:
June 21, 2015 at 5:58 pm
There’s no please you fucks….no oil or coal power now no wind power…shut up and make up your minds. If a bird is not smart enough
to flow around a big ass turbine….well….survival of the fittest or smartest birds.
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Mark Duchamp:
July 16, 2015 at 11:53 am
Are children stupid as well, in your mind?
So, why do mothers tell them to be careful when crossing the street?
There is no “mother” to warn birds entering killing fields full of giant blades swirling at 180 mph at the tip.
Mark
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Curt Widlund:
June 22, 2015 at 7:00 pm
If one party is killed die even eggs and chicks.
Curt
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Tc:
July 6, 2015 at 12:00 am
Replace them with the new single vertical blade technology.
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permanently disabled by wind farms? (America’s wind farms slaughter millions of bats and birds per year.)
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Dean Harris:
July 21, 2015 at 10:45 pm
Re the birds and bats that are being killed. Build the wind turbines with within heavy duty chicken wire cages. Big versions of domestic
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fans. What’s the problem? 25 years and no one has done it yet? Wake up you clever people.
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DON SASSER:
July 28, 2015 at 1:15 pm
Could something be added to these wind turbines to emit a high pitched noise to keep the birds away? Some kind of signal that would
keep birds away.
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reta hare:
July 28, 2015 at 1:25 pm
Something has to be done to stop the killing of these golden eagles and bats. The golden eagles will become extinct if this continues and
these bats. The bats are very necessary for insect control in the US. This can not be allowed to continue.
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Pat McRae:
August 4, 2015 at 9:26 pm
Too bad Cecil the Lion cant fly…..
If he had flown into a windmill and got chopped to pieces these stupid windmills would be shut down.
Windmills are centuries old technology and will never make much difference in our electricity needs.
Nuclear works great, but environmentalist fanatics are afraid of atoms and stuff. I guess they don’t mind piles of dead Eagles all over the
place.
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If you want clean power and live birds then go nuclear.
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Mark Duchamp:
August 5, 2015 at 12:40 pm
STEI is not keen on nuclear, to say the least. If it can be avoided, all the better. But can it be replaced by intermittent energy, like
wind or solar?
This is the question that must be asked.
The answer is no. Not until we find a way to store electricity at the scale required to fuel a whole country during, say, one month
(to cover a long anticyclon with no wind). And so far, it has proven to be an impossible task.
Germany, for instance, has failed to replace nuclear by wind and solar. They had to build dozens of coal-fired power plants: to
replace nuclear power, to provide energy in the absence of wind and/or sunshine, and to regulate erratic wind and solar power so
that it may be used.
France has built 16 natural gas power stations between 2005 and 2011, to ensure the reliability of French electricity generation,
which was threatened by the coming online of erratic windpower. A double investment (wind + gas) for the same total output,
forcing the government to invent a new tax (the “CSPE”) to be slammed on power bills. There is talk now of extending the CSPE
to gazoline and gas bills, for windpower generation itself must be heavily subsidised. The problem is now double : how to stop fuel
poverty from skyrocketting, and how to stop French industry from becoming even more un-competitive.
Latest news from Japan: 20 nuclear reactors will be put back in service, the first one this month.
http://www.nei.org/News-Media/News/Japan-Nuclear-Update
Obviously, wind and solar can’t do the job they were doing.
I wish I could, like many, daydream that renewable energy can replace coal, gas and nuclear energy. But we have to deal with
realities, unfortunately.
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R B:
August 20, 2015 at 10:35 pm
Math is not your strong subject….The record for the greatest migration of Golden Eagles was 4000. There are estimated to be 300-400
Golden Eagles at California’s Altamont wind farm with the peak in 1980 timeframe. If we have killed 2900 golden eagles as you assert
then we killed all we had and imported 2500 more to kill.
It simply does not add up. In fact, you should be ashamed that your web page has directly killed a Golden Eagle by the consumption of
electricity that you and other have consumed in maintaining this web page of junk science. If you want to do something that matters to
the Golden Eagles you need to stop using electricity.
We would be more entertained if you told us about the last time you were abducted by Martians. Martians would even be more believable
because you are really out there with your pseudo math….
I think eagles of all kinds are magnificent birds and your junk science just clouds the real issues that are driving these magnificent birds
to extinction.
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Mark Duchamp:
August 21, 2015 at 9:58 pm
The figure of 2900 is calculated from Dr Shawn Smallwood’s 3-year study published in 2004 in which he estimated golden eagle
mortality at Altamont to be 116 eagles a year. The wind farm is 25 year old +, so take a solar-powered calculator and get to work.
I pass on your other comments.
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dale Peterson:
August 26, 2015 at 6:53 am
How can I help? This is horrible. I have noticed a dramatic decrease in Raptors in the area since these windmills went up in Washington
State. Heart breaking.
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WakeUpCall:
August 30, 2015 at 8:24 pm
You and all of the birds will all be dead when we continue to destroy the planet burning fossil fuels.
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Mark Duchamp:
September 1, 2015 at 1:00 am
You don’t get it. Wind farms are intermittent. They need fossil fuel power plants to remain on stand-by to pick up the slack when
the wind falters. Burning fuel for nothing, and doubling up the investment for the same electricity production, the end result is zero
savings on fossil fuels. Wind farms are a scam, bilking taxpayers and consumers of hundreds of billions of dollars.
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Margaret Brown:
October 13, 2015 at 10:13 am
What can be done? These turbines are welcomed because they do not pollute the air (Nonsense–manufacture involves pollution)
Neither the USA not European countries are likely to demolish these monstrosities, bird life being of small concern to your average city
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dweller.
The human race expects too much and once set on its present path is unlikely to regress. Finally, sometime in the future, we are likely to
face a silent spring. What next?
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Arthur Bourgeois:
November 18, 2015 at 2:59 am
I’m adding your site to blogs etc that I’m passing around a thought/idea about saving some of these birds…..
It seems to me a (relatively) slow moving windmill might be made MUCH MORE “visible” by the addition of streamers which “should”
make the blades look like a solid wheel to birds. I think MANY struck birds might also simply misjudge the speed of the passing blades.
Heck, we humans are said to be a “more superior animal” and yet… We have been known to occasionally misjudge oncoming cars speed
when crossing streets.
I imagine some field testing would be needed to find the “Goldilocks”” ultimate method…. I.E. : What color ( something that reflects
ultraviolet might be optimal as I believe most birds see in ultraviolet) or what widths of streamers, or fluttering modes versus not, and
what material….. It’s possible that something tough/durable like even Kevlar MIGHT be needed, but..Maybe not. Hell, maybe
PAINTING the blades with an ultraviolet glowing paint could help?
Heck, for a few hundred dollars ( per multi THOUSANDS $$$ blades) one could even add some combination of smoke “puffers”
and/OR lasers.
BONUS: It might even be possible to have streamers that break up the air-vortexes that create the “whoosh-whoosh” noises which vex so
many neighbors of windmills? OR… Some that make ultrasonic “noises” so as to include bats in this rescue. Gee, maybe birds like bats
and cats, (but not windmill’s people neighbors) can hear that warning ultrasonic too?
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Mark Duchamp:
November 30, 2015 at 9:44 pm
Feel free to write to the wind industry about your ideas. But keep in mind that they have tried everything, over the past 30 years, in
particular at Altamont Pass, and have found no deterrent that works.
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Jay:
November 24, 2015 at 5:02 pm
People need energy, simple as that. Would you prefer we continue with Mountain Topping or Coal extraction? Those are much more
harmful to the environment. Wind is much cleaner and more sustainable than most other methods. Everything has a downfall. I would
think your efforts would be better spent looking into how wind and birds can co-exist or methods to limit the actual mortality caused by
wind. You use energy…that’s why more energy is needed. You breed…that’s why more energy is needed. Don’t argue that FACT, just
accept it and move on. Our population will continue to increase, therefore more energy will be required. So, best use of your time –
convince people to breed less (goodluck), convince people to use less energy (I like this most), or come up with methods to minimize
bird mortality due to wind…OR become a proponent to other, much more harmful methods to produce energy.
On a side note, feral cats kill FAR more birds than all wind farms combined in the world. Feral cats kill A FREAKING LOT more birds
than anything in North America actually. I would also suggest you spend energy here…It’s not socially acceptable to kill feral cats for
some reason in this country, but that’s the answer…just need to get people to see that they are an enormous nuisance if left outdoors and
abandoned.
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Mark Duchamp:
November 30, 2015 at 10:03 pm
The trouble is, you NEED fossil fuel plants (FFPs) to balance the irregular production of wind turbines. And in this back-up
funcion, the FFPs burn roughly twice as much fuel – just like a car in city traffic as opposed to the highway. So, what the wind
turbines save is burnt by the FFPs. In addition, for the same overall production of electricity, you need to build two facilities
instead of one: wind farms + FFPs. And their construction causes much fuel to be burnt. At the end of the day, more fossil fuels are
burnt with wind turbines than without.
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Mark Duchamp:
November 30, 2015 at 10:08 pm
As for the cat-kill-more-birds argument:
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– cats don’t kill eagles, cranes, geese, swans, pelicans, falcons, hawks, condors, vultures, owls, bats. Wind turbines do.
– two wrongs don’t make a right.
– there is no solution for cats. There is one for wind turbines: stop subsidizing them. They are useless anyway (see my
previous comment).
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Charlie Abell:
December 4, 2015 at 1:53 am
No big opinion on wind turbines but I am curorious as to how a slow moving propellor kills thousands of birds. Some cruise slow but if
they get close a man made object they steer clear. I just can’t see a bird getting hit by the prop. What am I missing?
Thanks
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